Its pointless comparing meter numbers unless you know exactly how the meters work. To divert the discussion for a moment, I don't know exactly how the meters work but want to explain why I mentioned them earlier. SafeandSound Mastering mentioned analyzing using TDR Prism, which, to my understanding...

If you're dragging the crossfade halves to separate tracks the move has to be sample-accurate in the time-line, or the nulling will fail. Yes, I've made sure to the best I can to confirm the move is sample-accurate. If the dragged half would move even a sample, the null would break for it's whole d...

Did you check all the auto fade options / settings are not adding anything ? Not sure that would affect the track seperation though. 100pct sure your second track is "inert" of differences so to speak ? Thanks for all the testing! Yes, I believe they are inert and rechecked it again. Can ...

Thanks everyone for testing, very interesting results. Have you tried it using a different timebase to see if that affects it? I have tried in Cubase with different "Ruler Displays": Bars+Beats/Seconds/Timecode, with and without quantize, with and without zero crossing, 32bit float and 64 ...

Thanks Wonks for confirming this on the newer version!.
Now I don't need to do it myself. I'll inform Steinberg about it, and that they've been beaten by SADiE.

I tried the same crossfade-and-drag-to-a-second-channel thing in SADiE and it nulled perfectly through the crossover.... so it's a weird cubase anomaly! Thanks for checking in another DAW, good to know that it could work perfectly! Unlikely to be an issue if you're processing the tracks anyway. Tha...

Hugh Robjohns wrote: ↑Wed Feb 21, 2024 7:10 pm -145dBFS is the rounding error level of the 24bit output, so that's as good as it gets and working perfectly.

Good to know about the -145dBFS!

The 2nd one’s just two fades, not a dedicated crossfade. The crossfade dialogue seems to have more control. Is it a real problem or just an experiment? Theoretically, I would expect them to be the same since they have the same unchanged parameters, but it does seem that the dedicated crossfade is c...

This is Cubase 10.5, I haven't updated it yet. Maybe it has already changed in newer versions...

Just momentarily through the crossfade. But just for the sake of accuracy, even in image #1 on the left, depending on the type of crossfade, there was sound at the crossfade at around -145 dB, so I'll consider it a null. But in the second example, depending on the type of crossfade, I sometimes get ...

Hi, Do you know what the difference is in these situations? In the left image #1: At the top, the orange channel has a crossfade. Below it, in light blue, is a copy of this channel with inverted phase, resulting in them nulling completely. In the right image #2: I dragged the right part of the orang...

Interesting to hear they sounded muffled to you, good to know. I didn't listen to them yet but considering new headphones. It's usually quite problematic comparing measurements made by different people due to inconsistencies between rigs and different compensation target curves they implement to mak...

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Thanks for answering Hugh. I understand this more accurately now.
I still wonder though about other possible differences between them in cases such as this where they are almost interchangeable and can be used to reach similar curve.

Hi all. I've been comparing different filters, specifically linear phase for sub and bass equing. I have 2 channels with the same white noise summed up to a group channel. I flipped the phase and apply the eq to the second channel. On their summed group channel I have an analyzer showing the differe...

What you're showing and hearing is that the louder part of the waveform is reduced in duration — which is exactly what a compressor does. ... so the note isn't shorter, though the loudest bit of it certainly is. Hugh, before when I said "A compressor can shorten the time it lingers, or in othe...

Wonks Thank you for the wonderful information! So don’t assume that the amplitude of a transient won’t be affected at all by setting a long attack time. It will certainly be affected less, but it’s amplitude will be reduced, even if ever so slightly. Definitely not assuming that as I am actually qui...

Regarding what The elf and RichardT said about compressors ability to expand dynamic range. I'm still confused about that too! and would love a clarification. This is why I wrote this post exactly 1 year ago :) https://www.soundonsound.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=810508 Lets say I have a lingering res...

Thanks for explaining!
I learned a lot

Thanks for answering Hugh and Richard. This is becoming interesting :) I just watched again Dan Worrall's video "WTF is Dither" (at 16:00) to see if I remembered correctly. He saw that mp3 files can sometimes be read as 16 files by some systems. So we have exported 24bit wav file as the ma...