Recording double bass drums

Discuss hardware/software tools and techniques involved in capturing sound, in the studio, live or on location.
Post Reply

Recording double bass drums

Post by brianfoster »

The owner of the studio told me he doesn’t want to record two bass drums I should only bring one. To me this sounded completely unprofessional. What do you think?
Last edited by Hugh Robjohns on Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:46 am, edited 1 time in total.
brianfoster
Posts: 3 Joined: Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:39 pm

Re: Recording double bass drums

Post by Drew Stephenson »

That sounds a trifle odd but a bit more context might help?
User avatar
Drew Stephenson
Apprentice Guru
Posts: 29713 Joined: Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:00 am Location: York
(The forumuser formerly known as Blinddrew)
Ignore the post count, I have no idea what I'm doing...
https://drewstephenson.bandcamp.com/

Re: Recording double bass drums

Post by resistorman »

Is the drum room really small?
User avatar
resistorman
Frequent Poster
Posts: 2986 Joined: Sun Nov 22, 2015 12:00 am Location: Asheville NC
"The Best" piece of gear is subjective.

Re: Recording double bass drums

Post by Sam Inglis »

brianfoster wrote:The owner of the studio told me he doesn’t want to record to bass drums I should only bring one. To me this sounded completely unprofessional. What do you think?

If he's refused point blank to record your drum kit as you have it set up then yes, I think that's unprofessional and I'd go somewhere else.

If he foresees a specific problem he should explain what it is so that you can work things out properly.
Sam Inglis
Moderator
Posts: 3228 Joined: Fri Dec 15, 2000 12:00 am

Re: Recording double bass drums

Post by The Elf »

Maybe he knows something you don't. I would simply open up a dialogue to understand his reasoning.
User avatar
The Elf
Forum Aficionado
Posts: 21434 Joined: Tue Aug 14, 2001 12:00 am Location: Sheffield, UK
An Eagle for an Emperor, A Kestrel for a Knave.

Re: Recording double bass drums

Post by brianfoster »

Thanks guys, here is some more info.
He has a giant drum room. His only reason was that its easier for him, no detailed explanation.
I said what if Simon Phillips, Dave Lombardo or Billy Cobham comes out, are you gonna tell them to only use one bass drum. He fell silent!
He has all the gear and plenty of room, top notch facility.
I play all styles of music but when I play metal I need both bass drums to be able to pull off what I do. The slave pedal just doesn't give the the right feel for the rolling double bass parts.
I know that I will not be recording metal at his studio but I'm trying to decide if it is even worth recording there for the other styles I play.
https://www.youtube.com/c/BrianFosterdrummer
brianfoster
Posts: 3 Joined: Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:39 pm

Re: Recording double bass drums

Post by CS70 »

It seems to me incredibly odd and stupid that someone would sabotage their business that way - unless for some reason he doesn't really want you as a client. It's not like these days there's millions in queue to record at any studio.

But worse people have been in charge of business which they shouldn't, and you may have gotten one mid in the process of failing. So yes, if the situation is as you describe, you're much better off bringing your business someplace else.
User avatar
CS70
Longtime Poster
Posts: 7799 Joined: Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:00 am Location: Oslo, Norway
Silver Spoon - Check out our latest video and the FB page

Re: Recording double bass drums

Post by Wonks »

Sounds more like he's only got one kick drum mic, or at least only one of maybe two types, so that he can't provide a similar pair.
User avatar
Wonks
Jedi Poster
Posts: 19208 Joined: Thu May 29, 2003 12:00 am Location: Freethorpe, Norfolk, UK
Reliably fallible.

Re: Recording double bass drums

Post by Sam Spoons »

That's easy top solve by bunging £30 on the session fees and hiring one in for a couple of days..... Do you have your own drum mics Brian? Offer to take them to the session, then at least you'll get a better idea of what he's thinking......

But you might be better to find someone else to provide the facilities, life's too short (until you're retired, then it's even shorter....)
User avatar
Sam Spoons
Forum Aficionado
Posts: 22904 Joined: Thu Jan 23, 2003 12:00 am Location: Manchester UK
Still mourning the loss of my 'Jedi Poster" status :)

People often mistake me for a grown-up because of my age.

Re: Recording double bass drums

Post by resistorman »

If it’s for your own music, obviously it’s not the right facility. If you’re being called in as a drummer for someone else’s session, it would be professional for you to do whatever it takes to make the session work.
User avatar
resistorman
Frequent Poster
Posts: 2986 Joined: Sun Nov 22, 2015 12:00 am Location: Asheville NC
"The Best" piece of gear is subjective.

Re: Recording double bass drums

Post by Sam Spoons »

Good point RM. I suppose it comes down to who is the employer in the relationship. If he was hiring you to play on a session then he calls the tune, if vice versa then it's your decision which kit to bring.

You wouldn't take this to an acoustic session

Image
User avatar
Sam Spoons
Forum Aficionado
Posts: 22904 Joined: Thu Jan 23, 2003 12:00 am Location: Manchester UK
Still mourning the loss of my 'Jedi Poster" status :)

People often mistake me for a grown-up because of my age.

Re: Recording double bass drums

Post by Hugh Robjohns »

brianfoster wrote:...I'm trying to decide if it is even worth recording there for the other styles I play.

You'll need to have a conversation with the engineer and/or producer about that, won't you? If you're the client you would reasonably expect to record the kit you bring unless there's a very good reason not to. But as Sam says, if you're being hired to play on someone else's session you gotta deliver what the producer asks for... but I get the impression you're not telling the full story.

Having said that, I completely get the engineer's point of view in that, if this session isn't a metal session, there is no need to set up two kick drums. It's just more stuff to rattle, resonate and get in the way.

On the other hand, if your post is just an attempt to get some views for your youtube video, well done. You've probably achieved that... ;-)

H
User avatar
Hugh Robjohns
Moderator
Posts: 43690 Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2003 12:00 am Location: Worcestershire, UK
Technical Editor, Sound On Sound...
(But generally posting my own personal views and not necessarily those of SOS, the company or the magazine!)
In my world, things get less strange when I read the manual... 

Re: Recording double bass drums

Post by Martin Walker »

Hugh Robjohns wrote:On the other hand, if your post is just an attempt to get some views for your youtube video, well done. You've probably achieved that... ;-)

Ooh, are you getting cynical in your old age Hugh? ;)

Having said that, I went to Brian's YouTube page and had a listen too, so mission accomplished :beamup:

Martin
User avatar
Martin Walker
Moderator
Posts: 22574 Joined: Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:44 am Location: Cornwall, UK

Re: Recording double bass drums

Post by Sam Spoons »

Me too, he does have some chops though.... not like a bloke who insists on posting on my guitar society FB group..... I haven't the heart to ban him though......
User avatar
Sam Spoons
Forum Aficionado
Posts: 22904 Joined: Thu Jan 23, 2003 12:00 am Location: Manchester UK
Still mourning the loss of my 'Jedi Poster" status :)

People often mistake me for a grown-up because of my age.

Re: Recording double bass drums

Post by brianfoster »

I think I will probably choose another studio. He has plenty of matching kick drum mics . I agree if I’m being hired for someone else’s session then I should comply with the engineers requests. Appreciate everybody’s feedback greatly!
brianfoster
Posts: 3 Joined: Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:39 pm
Post Reply