Reflexion Filter / Stands..

[Dave B]

A couple of weeks ago, I picked up the 'Project Studio Reflexion Filter'. Nice buy for the money - seems to do what I need it to. The problem I have is mounting the damn thing. I've tried an ordinary mic stand and it isn't very happy about the weight - there's a definite 'tower of Pizza' look to the thing. With the full monty, there is trick to fudging the RF's own mounting bracket, but the little brother seems to have a different one.

Anyone else got one of these? If so, do you use a normal mic stand for it?

I'm tempted to order a heavy duty PA / lighting stand - overkill??

I am also concerned that the mounting bracket has a joint at the end which looks like an odd place to put a joint as it takes the full weight of any mounting a couple of inches from it's end - surely bound to be a weakness over time. Anyone else seen this.

Or is there simply a better way of mounting these puppies?

[The Elf]

I'm tempted to order a heavy duty PA / lighting stand - overkill??

That's how we do it. We simply got tired of all the other options.

[ConcertinaChap]

Here's how I've got mine:-



You can see I've disregarded the mount point for the mic and put the mic on the top of the stand in the usual way, then attached the reflexion filter stand and swung the bar out to the side out of the way. The mic then seems to be in the right place.

The mic is a Gemini III which is itself a very heavy beast. Fortunately I have a mic stand that doesn't have a boom so the mic and reflexion just sit on the top directly above the centre of gravity. This is only usable for a vocalist, but that suits me at present. If I want to put the whole shebang on a boom then I think I would have to get something heavy duty as you say.

CC

[MarcusH]

I'm tempted to order a heavy duty PA / lighting stand - overkill??

No, not overkill - in fact that's exactly what I've done - I got a Samson PA stand. This is stronger than a normal mic stand, and yet entirely adequate for it's intended use - in my studio at least, where stuff like boom miking isn't needed.

Marcus

[Dave B]

This would explain why the mounting clamp is so damned big!!

Cheers for the responses chaps. Another thing to put on my shopping list for next month.

[Emmet]

have a ganders at this

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/may09/a ... 0509_2.htm

[ConcertinaChap]

As the OP said, this works with the original Reflexion filter but not the smaller Project Reflexion.

CC

[Mixedup]

Cymbal stand might also do the trick and allow you to use a boom. Or use separate stands for filter and mic.

I've never understood the need for such devices to be so heavily engineered. "The Silent Peaks ones, for example, were really lightweight and did a fine job.

[shufflebeat]

Here's how I've got mine:-



You can see I've disregarded the mount point for the mic and put the mic on the top of the stand in the usual way, then attached the reflexion filter stand and swung the bar out to the side out of the way. The mic then seems to be in the right place.

The mic is a Gemini III which is itself a very heavy beast. Fortunately I have a mic stand that doesn't have a boom so the mic and reflexion just sit on the top directly above the centre of gravity. This is only usable for a vocalist, but that suits me at present. If I want to put the whole shebang on a boom then I think I would have to get something heavy duty as you say.

CC

That's almost identical to mine except for the bar sticking out the back makes an excellent 'phones/cable hook, the sliding mic attachment pulled out to the end stops things falling off the end.

In fact, I have no problem with the design except for the fact that the best parts came about by total accident.

[JoeM]

It's nice to see some competition to the original at the $299.99 USD price point. Now there's the "Project Studio" version offered by Reflexion at $169.99 USD along with the Primacoustic "VoxGuard" and auralex's "MudGuard" both at at $99.99 USD.

I've always wanted the original Reflexion Filter, but the price kept me away (I'm just a home DIY type and other gear always left me with an empty wallet/not willing to spend the money/etc.).

Anyone out there have feedback on the lower cost alternatives?

[Darclinc]

I bought one of these second hand a while ago, and promptly ditched the mounting bracket because it's too heavy, fiddly, unbalanced and ultimately, in my view, poorly designed.

The filter's screw thread fits a normal mic stand and it not nearly as heavy or unbalanced on its own, but a heavy duty stand is probably the way forward if you want to ensure it sits firmly and won't fall over.

I just stick whatever mic I want to use on a separate mic stand in front, or arched over from the back of the filter with an extended boom. Seems to work fine.

Cheers,

D.

[Dave B]

Good idea - having looked at it last night, the 'two stands' idea appeals as I also don't need big, heavy duty booms.

As to the sound, well, it's ok. But, as pointed out in the SOS review, it will only cut out mids and highs effectively so if you have a boomy room, then it might be worth getting the more expensive one. I have the small LDC size one and it's great (and built like a tank). The full size RF is now patented (apparently) so it really is a case of getting what you pay for. I might stick some examples up next week..

[Darclinc]

FWIW, I have the original big SE one.

D.

[ConcertinaChap]

That's almost identical to mine except for the bar sticking out the back makes an excellent 'phones/cable hook, the sliding mic attachment pulled out to the end stops things falling off the end.

Hey, neat. Why didn't I think of that? My mind must be too highly trained.

CC

PS Mine is the project reflexion. It came free with the mic. You can see the duvet behind permanently hanging off the wall which is the main reflection controller. I think the project reflexion is a nice and useful freeby, though I probably wouldn't have paid for it.

[jaminem]

I bought one of these second hand a while ago, and promptly ditched the mounting bracket because it's too heavy, fiddly, unbalanced and ultimately, in my view, poorly designed.

The filter's screw thread fits a normal mic stand and it not nearly as heavy or unbalanced on its own, but a heavy duty stand is probably the way forward if you want to ensure it sits firmly and won't fall over.

I just stick whatever mic I want to use on a separate mic stand in front, or arched over from the back of the filter with an extended boom. Seems to work fine.

Cheers,

D.

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