Favourite Vocal Widener Plug-ins...

[Mixedup]

I'm talking about the Harmonizer-style wider - micropitch up and down on L + R.

PSP42 and PSP84/85 seem to do the job pretty well. And the Sound Toys one. I'm not usually using PT so the Eventide Anthology Bundle (please do a VST version!!!) is out.

Would love to hear your views on the above, or other recommendations...

[RegressiveRock]

I'm talking about the Harmonizer-style wider - micropitch up and down on L + R.

PSP42 and PSP84/85 seem to do the job pretty well. And the Sound Toys one. I'm not usually using PT so the Eventide Anthology Bundle (please do a VST version!!!) is out.

Would love to hear your views on the above, or other recommendations...

Not being kitsch - none, I do it myself.

Reg

[muzines]

I mostly use Waves Doubler for this, and also the UAD Roland Dimension D has some useful thickening effects too.

[Mike Senior]

Schwa CMX is good.

[Mixedup]

I mostly use Waves Doubler for this, and also the UAD Roland Dimension D has some useful thickening effects too.

The Dimension D is certainly useful and excellent, though not the same thing that I had in mind. Never had much time for the Doubler. Every time I've played with it I've ended up taking it off again!

[Mixedup]

Schwa CMX is good.

That's more like it... clean, simple, small GUI. If it's as good as the rest of their stuff it should do the trick nicely.

[muzines]

Never had much time for the Doubler. Every time I've played with it I've ended up taking it off again!

The trick is to keep it subtle, so you can barely hear it working. I use it to get a slightly 3D effect to a vocal, so it's coming out of the left, right and centre together, and when you take the effect off the vocal just sounds less "present".

Any more than that, at least on vocals, and it starts to sound hokey (but then, I don't even really like double tracking vocals either).

[Stan]

There is a very interesting effect on Paul McCartney's voice on 'Live and let Die' - is that it? Is that the type of effect we are talking about here?

[alexis]

There is a very interesting effect on Paul McCartney's voice on 'Live and let Die' - is that it? Is that the type of effect we are talking about here?

Which part of the song? (At work now, will listen when I get home).

Oh, and I guess I need to ask "which version?", as there are likely to be a million on youtube ...

[Stan]

Pauls voice - right from the beginning of the song - 'When you were young and your heart was an open book ..

[Dave B]

Yamaha SPX90 mkII - better than the mkI as it has balanced ins/outs but still the same box. It has a 'fuzzy' sort of sound rather than the harsh metallic sound of other boxes/plugins. Wired into my system permanently and will only be parted when one of us gives up the ghost.

I love 'external plug ins' ...

[. . . Delete This User . . .]

Eventide and yamaha spx90 Impulse responses..... ...

not perfect, for the usual convolution limitation reasons, but not bad either....

adding some modulation from Logic's ensemble chorus on 5 voices , to a wet feed aux from the Space designer output helps as well.

[Richie Royale]

I either do it by recording multiple parts and panning or using my Dimension C pedal.

[The Elf]

Most often I use Roland Dimension D (the real deal!) and/or a little bit of left/right hamoniser/delay.

If you can hear it doing it's thing you've probably got too much. I'm just looking for a slight 'bloom' in the vocal that gives it authority in the mix.

[Tomás Mulcahy]

Yamaha SPX90 mkII

The "Symphonic" algorithm? Yes, that's a classic. I have the clunkier but entirely digital DMP7D for that.

But am I right in saying IR will not work, because it's a pitch shift?