What would you say to running these straight out of the headphone out of the E-mu 1820m ? Or perhaps the headphone preamp of the Sm Pro M-Patch 2 ?
Would there be a difference between the two ?
There's definitely a difference between the two.
I did spend a little time listening to my HD650's through the headphone amp of the M-Patch 2, but this employs budget circuitry that really didn't do the 650's justice. It's a handy feature, and provides decent bass control plus sufficient current to drive both low and high impedance headphones, but it's not really up to the mark for serious listening.
I ran my phones for some months plugged into the headphone socket of my Emu 1820M, and this produced very acceptable audio quality, but I felt I still wasn't getting the best from them, and was on the lookout for something better, which is why I ended up upgrading both D/A converter and headphone amp in one hit.
themajorblip wrote:So I got my HD650s this morning-and they are very nice. I feel a bit dissapointed in their low end tho...
You see Martin, it's not just me!
Since running them in - I completely retract that statement. In fact if anything their bass is OTT and boomy. Im not sure I can distinguish it clearly enough....
Martin Walker wrote:I ran my phones for some months plugged into the headphone socket of my Emu 1820M, and this produced very acceptable audio quality, but I felt I still wasn't getting the best from them, and was on the lookout for something better, which is why I ended up upgrading both D/A converter and headphone amp in one hit.
I've always found the E-mu 1820m's preamps to give me acceptable levels with my Beyerdynamic DT250's. Anyway, so basically what you're saying is that it's not really worth it to get the HD650's if you don't have a pro headphone amp and some decent D/A converters ?
There's that idea out the window then ! Audio equipment people, it's a black hole that sucks in money like it's no ones business.
Well, having started this thread over a year ago, I must say that it is a testament to the quality of the 650s that people are still discussing their merits, and using them to good effect.
Mine have been getting regular use over that period of time. I don't know if it's that they have "worn in" or more the fact that I have grown acoustomed to using them, but I must say that my recordings are far more balanced since I have been using them. I suppose it will be a mixture of the two.
And the pads are wearing well, too. Good quality materials, see! And they are still as comfortable to wear, as ever before. Like a couple of "plumped" pillows pressed to the sides of the face!
Martin Walker wrote:I ran my phones for some months plugged into the headphone socket of my Emu 1820M, and this produced very acceptable audio quality, but I felt I still wasn't getting the best from them, and was on the lookout for something better, which is why I ended up upgrading both D/A converter and headphone amp in one hit.
I've always found the E-mu 1820m's preamps to give me acceptable levels with my Beyerdynamic DT250's. Anyway, so basically what you're saying is that it's not really worth it to get the HD650's if you don't have a pro headphone amp and some decent D/A converters ?
There's that idea out the window then ! Audio equipment people, it's a black hole that sucks in money like it's no ones business.
Ho hum ..
D.
No, what I'm saying is that you can get good results with HD650's out of an Emu 1820M that's perfectly acceptable, which is why I carried on using this combination for some months.
I just felt that these phones might sound even better with more upmarket converters and headphone amp, which they did. It wasn't a 'night and day' scenario, but rather a further upgrade.
Martin Walker wrote:.....what I'm saying is that you *can* get good results with HD650's out of an Emu 1820M that's perfectly acceptable, which is why I carried on using this combination for some months.
I just felt that these phones might sound even better with more upmarket converters and headphone amp, which they did. It wasn't a 'night and day' scenario, but rather a further upgrade.
I am just ( only just ) a drummer, and I have never heard of 'running in' headphones, but as stated the HD650 does benefit from loads of use, I have left mine at the studio for the last 6 months for band the band to use, they are almost there...
Th HD280 is my top choice for attenuating room sound, perfect cans for drum tracking, but I cannot use them for anything which requires proper listening, no way Jose'.
hi new to this forum but needed some advice on this topic.
so basically im running a fairly simple system with an emu 0404 and can stretch to these headphones which i have read on numerous occasions are brilliant. i am currently producing drum and bass but more melodic stuff really so am after a few bits of info or opinions.
firstly i would like to know if in your opinions these headphones would be suitable for the type of material im producing and secondly about headphone amps (suggestions would be great) and whether my sound card would be sufficient enough to get the best out of them. i would go for monitors but i'm afraid i have enough problems with room acoustics with the speakers i have (very poor hi fi speakers costing 6 pound). any help greatly appreciated.
I find it useful to use a plugin that simulates the sound of using speakers (and thus enhances the bass and spacial distribution) when using headphones for mixing/mastering. This combination I find to be far more accurate = better mixes than attempting to mix in a room that hasn't been 'fully conditioned'.
I had the exact same experience when I received my HD650s. I had been using Beyerdynamic DT 770's and Sony 7506's; the difference was just incredible. All of my mixes using the new cans have been much more balanced and cohesive - highly recommend!
