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Post by SevenIndustries »

I've recently had to move to Lion due to a laptop failure, and I've successfully migrated everything over - except ESX now can't 'find' the associated audio files in Logic 8.

This afternoon has been spent googling the problem and all I can find it people suggesting a re-install (not possible with Logic 8 disks), indexing spotlight (hasn't worked) or upgrading to Logic 9 (I've just crippled myself with a new mac).

Is there any way that I can relink the audio files to the esx player in Logic 8?
It's not a huge problem as I rarely use ESX - but now I can't, I know someone will ask for it.
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Post by muzines »

Do you mean the EXS24?

If it can't find the samples, that means the samples are not indexed in Spotlight. Try a spotlight search for some of the same files - you'll probably see that your computer can't find them either.

Make sure your sample drives are in the spotlight index, then the EXS24 should find them as expected.

If you say you've done this and it hasn't worked, are you saying that a spotlight search can find some example samples reference by EXS24 instruments fine, but the EXS24 can't load them?
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Post by Scope »

EXS files are in the Application Support folder ( "App Sup")
Note :- "wave data" = generic name for audio files, as a range of files are compatible with Logic.

Go to :-
( root - Library - App Sup - )

Then in App sup - Garageband - Instrument Lib - Sampler.

Sampler Files are wave data
Sampler Instruments are EXS files.

Also in App Sup - Logic

Then 1) EXS Factory Samples ( wave data )
and 2) Sampler Instruments ( EXS files )

If you have added any yourself, you will find them in your User Account's own Library - App Sup - Logic etc...
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Post by SevenIndustries »

Yeah - Sorry, I should've clarified. It is ESX24.

The samples are on the main HDD, and in the same place they were on the old machine. Spotlight seems to find them - but ESX keeps giving errors that they're not present.

In the Garageband list of sampler audio files:
Grand Piano,
Hip Hop Kit
Muted Elec Bass
Perc Kit
Rock Kit
Steel String Acc
Upright Jazz Bass.

There is plenty of audio files contained within the Logic / EXS factory samples - but not the ones that I've used previously. It seems that they've not transferred or are unlinked. I'm still not able to link the samples, even though I know where they should be.

Is there a way to rebuild the ESX library, or change where it's searching for them? Perhaps a directory name has been altered and that's throwing ESX into the failure.

Cheers for the replies.

EDIT::
It seems that I am missing a whole lot of the audio files associated with ESX. I'm missing both the electric and acoustic bass audio samples. I'll try and copy them over directly from my old HDD and see if that works.
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I've attached my old HDD via target mode and the missing ESX files have somehow disappeared from my old HDD. The samples were working last week before the computer died as I was working on a session using 'Attitude Bass'.

Is there a way that I can find the sample packs online, either via Apple or elsewhere?
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Just use Pacifist to extract them from your installer disks.

For Logic 9, you can download the content online, but as you are running an old version of Logic, you'll have to use your installation disks.
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Thanks Desmond, I'll see if I can extract the ESX 24 data from the disks.
All the other software instruments work with no problems, but it seems like something has happened with ESX24 that's screwed up how it works.
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You've just got missing files, they probably just got missed when you migrated your content from your old computer, or in a GB update or something.

Once you put the sample files back, I'm sure the EXS24 will be able to load them just fine...
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Turns out all the files are identical on my old HDD, and on the disk. I've asked a friend to e-mail me a picture of his directory and his files are exactly the same. I'm not physically missing files AFAIK, so there's a problem with the ESX24 plug-in.

Later this afternoon I'll try to reinstall ESX and that should fix it.
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So, take an example instrument you are trying to load. Open it in the editor, and see what samples that instrument requires. Check to see whether those exact samples are on your disk in the path that is linked to in the instrument.

Most likely they will not be where the instrument thinks they are (otherwise, they would just be loaded). In this situation, the EXS24 uses Spotlight to locate the samples.

So, take one case, and be absolutely sure about the same situation before blaming an issue with the plugin. I've troubleshooted sample loading issues a *lot* of the years, and in pretty much all cases the issues are sample files are missing, corrupt, or are not indexed in Spotlight correctly.
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Post by MarkOne »

I have had a very similar experience.

Spent the better part of today hunting for .esx files and .aiff files that had not copied across

The really frustrating thing is spotlight refused to find these files on both the source and target computers...

even re-indexing spotlight search through terminal on both machines, it still couldn't find the offending files, I ended up hunting manually through library directories...

And why does Logic have three possible places where it chose to dump the files?

OK apart from re-authorising all my 3rd party plugins on the new machine I think I am about done

Time for bed.
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