recording you tube etc

[ef37a]

Don't know if this is the best place to put this but.

There are several proggs about that purport to allow the recording of on screen video but none of them, AFAIK will record any and everything?

On a whim I lashed out £13 on a "Portta HDMI to AV" converter. Smaller than 20 fags it sports an HDMI skt, 3 RCAs and a mini USB power port.

Last night I linked it up to my Panasonic Freeview HDD/DVD recorder out of my HP i3 laptop. I managed a successful recording of the Blackstar webinair on small amps. Ok, picture quality is not so hot, looks worse as well on a 32" screen but then "tube" stuff rarely starts out great!
Quality is at least as good as SVHS IIRC and so is fine "for information only". The great advantage is that anything you can see you can record.

For my next trick I am going to feed the box to a Dazzle USB video interface and see if I can capture everything on the lappy!

Well chuffed.

Dave.

[Forum Admin]

Thanks for the tip Dave.

Check out this freeware PC recorder:
http://www.bbsoftware.co.uk/bbflashbackexpress.aspx

[ef37a]

Thanks for the tip Dave.

Check out this freeware PC recorder:
http://www.bbsoftware.co.uk/bbflashbackexpress.aspx

Your ears burning? I installed the app and yes, true enough no crap. But it went through all kinds of screens to get me to buy it saying it basically doesn't work as a freebie. THEN I noticed that they had emailed me a license key (like Reaper do). I copied it but it would not paste. Tried again, no movement at all. Any ideas?

BTW. Some software, but by no means all askes "what do you want to associate this program with " then give a list of some viable but mostly hilarious options. I have never quite known what this means?

Dave.

[The Elf]

Ahem...

Download Helper

[muzines]

Yeah, seems a world of hassle just to "keep" a youtube video..

For me, I right-click on the YouTube video, select "Download as..." and it's done... :shrugs:

[ef37a]

Yeah, seems a world of hassle just to "keep" a youtube video..

For me, I right-click on the YouTube video, select "Download as..." and it's done... :shrugs:

Can you edit that and burn it to a DVD?

Dave.

[The Elf]

You can burn anything to a DVD that your DVD authoring software supports. Download helper lets you choose the format you want - there's bound to be one that will do it for you.

Personally I never burn to DVD any more - there are loads of ways to view video, from streaming it to my PS3/XBox to plugging my laptop's DVI output into my TV.

[muzines]

Can you edit that and burn it to a DVD?

You can do what you want with it.

Note that burning to DVD will almost always reduce the video quality signficantly, due to the relatively poor DVD compression - and DVD is SD only of course, whereas many youtube videos can be 720p or more...

I don't recommend using DVD's - if you want TV playback, far better is to have some kind of media player attached to it you can just copy files onto.

But if you want to go to the effort of transcoding and muxing video into a DVD format, burning a DVD, and keeping the physical media (seems a long-winded, tedious and archaic practice to me these days) then of course you can do that too.

[muzines]

Personally I never burn to DVD any more - there are loads of ways to view video, from streaming it to my PS3/XBox to plugging my laptop's DVI output into my TV.

Yup, what he said..

[ef37a]

As I said, YouTube quality is not that great to begin with. I have not noticed any great drop in quality.
I use a 32" Sony Bravia with an XP machine in my living room and that shows "tube" video to be inferior to even standard BBC fair let alone HD.
If I record on the HDD machine at its best resolution and copy that to DVD again I see no degradation in picture quality. It is all a bloody sight better than the Waltons on True Entertainment! ('er indoors is hooked).

Can any of these software systems record BBC iPlayer?

Dave.

[muzines]

As I said, YouTube quality is not that great to begin with.

Exactly - so throwing away more quality by transcoding to a DVD format is extra bad. It's like putting a low quality mp3 on a cassette - it only gets worse than the source. But if you are ok with the quality drop then go ahead...

I use a 32" Sony Bravia with an XP machine in my living room and that shows "tube" video to be inferior to even standard BBC fair let alone HD.

YouTube compresses multiple versions of each video - their are flags to acces higher quality versions. By default the compression is quite aggressive to save bandwidth.

Can any of these software systems record BBC iPlayer?

That's against the BBC license terms - you can download iPlayer programs for a few weeks using the BBC downloader, but can't save offline copies permanently. There might be tools to do that but I haven't looked into that.

You can do a screen recording using any of a number of screen video recorders if you really must - again though, no need to use external hardware for this.

[ef37a]

"Exactly - so throwing away more quality by transcoding to a DVD format is extra bad. It's like putting a low quality mp3 on a cassette - it only gets worse than the source. But if you are ok with the quality drop then go ahead..."

Sorry, don't agree. If you start with a barely 1 meg video bandwidth the copy I make matters very little. And if I copied an MP3 onto my Sony Dolby S machine using my remaining TDK SA stock you could never tell (well those with ppitch might hear wow on the Moonlight!)

And by the way, I want DVDs because my wife cannot handle computers. I also like to send the odd progg to my son in France.

Dave.

[muzines]

Sorry, don't agree. If you start with a barely 1 meg video bandwidth the copy I make matters very little.

Sure - as I've already said in this case you are fine with the quality drop. Transcoding video, particularly lossy video *always* loses some quality. In your cases, you don't notice the quality drop based on the source video, so you don't have problems. But the video is still technically lower quality - there is nothing to disagree with.

And if I copied an MP3 onto my Sony Dolby S machine using my remaining TDK SA stock you could never tell (well those with ppitch might hear wow on the Moonlight!)

Great. Same example. Quality loss but not noticeable for your situation, so you're fine with it. As I've already said above.

[The Elf]

And by the way, I want DVDs because my wife cannot handle computers.

Mine similarly, but I set the video going for her on an old laptop plugged into the TV and leave her to it. It's much easier than mucking around with DVD authoring - especially when it's unlikely to be watched more than once.

I also like to send the odd progg to my son in France.

Just stick the downloaded video in a shared Dropbox folder. He'll have it in minutes and no cost involved. Though it would be even easier to send him the Youtube link - EXAMPLE.

You seem to be weilding a heck of a large sledgehammer over this little nut for a bit of casual viewing. Make life easier for yourself, mate!

[ef37a]

And by the way, I want DVDs because my wife cannot handle computers.

Mine similarly, but I set the video going for her on an old laptop plugged into the TV and leave her to it. It's much easier than mucking around with DVD authoring - especially when it's unlikely to be watched more than once.

I also like to send the odd progg to my son in France.

Just stick the downloaded video in a shared Dropbox folder. He'll have it in minutes and no cost involved. Though it would be even easier to send him the Youtube link - EXAMPLE.

You seem to be weilding a heck of a large sledgehammer over this little nut for a bit of casual viewing. Make life easier for yourself, mate!

Give my wife my laptop?!!! She would hit a key and lose the picture. She can cope with the wee DVD player I bought her.

What's DVD authoring? I just copy to HDD, edit to taste and burn to disc in high speed mode. The box even auto finalizes.

Son is in a One Dog, nay mind horse town in the north, on the coast and internet is very sparse. Does not work on his laptop at his digs and although he can use an old smartphone on the web at work, not the best televisual experience.

You lot have not walked ten feet in my Dockers, leave alone a mile!

Dave.

[ef37a]

Sorry, don't agree. If you start with a barely 1 meg video bandwidth the copy I make matters very little.

Sure - as I've already said in this case you are fine with the quality drop. Transcoding video, particularly lossy video *always* loses some quality. In your cases, you don't notice the quality drop based on the source video, so you don't have problems. But the video is still technically lower quality - there is nothing to disagree with.

And if I copied an MP3 onto my Sony Dolby S machine using my remaining TDK SA stock you could never tell (well those with ppitch might hear wow on the Moonlight!)

Great. Same example. Quality loss but not noticeable for your situation, so you're fine with it. As I've already said above.

I will still disagree! If I copy a signal with a 1meg bandwidth on a system with a (say) 10 meg bandwidth where is the loss? Noise? No, if the original has a noise floor 10dB higher than my copying system you would never see/hear it. This is the principle of putting most of a mic amp's gain upfront. Subsequent stages add noise but it is swamped by the first stage. (yes, you could measure a tiny bit more noise but I shall have to let Dan or Hugh do the math!)

Dave.

[chris...]

Can any of these software systems record BBC iPlayer?

I don't know about these "software systems".

There certainly exists software that can.

Somewhat less call for it now most stuff is available for a month, as opposed to seven days.