Audient id14 not powering Neumann TLM 103, but Focusrite 2i2 will....
Re: Audient id14 not powering Neumann TLM 103, but Focusrite 2i2 will....
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Re: Audient id14 not powering Neumann TLM 103, but Focusrite 2i2 will....
Hmm, I have stood up for Audient in the past as I own a few of their interfaces and consider them to be the best I have ever owned,
Conversely, I am not a dedicated follower of any brand. I am a songwriter signed to a significant label who is fairly well known and does excellent business, as such I contacted Audient prior to their release of the new ID44 and expressed my concern that they were going in the wrong direction with the product. I told them there were a couple of tweaks that would make it appeal to a much wider audience and become a "Must have" for many, they didn't listen, SO I'M NOT BUYING ONE...period (These weren't just things that would have appealed to me only, they were reasonable tweaks that would have benefitted all customers and added little cost to produce the unit)
I never had a hard time getting a hold of them, I remember when I needed to know the workaround to the weird behavior on outs 3&4 of the ID22, they got back to me with detailed instructions,
I remember when I wanted to daisy chain my ID22 and ID14 (which is basically the equivalent of an ID44 and less expensive, one of the things I brought to their attention) they got back to me with instructions AND mixer preset files designed specifically for me, I appreciated that,
I fear that they may be suffering from something I've seen from other companies. When a company gets too big too fast they don't have the infrastructure to deal with issues like this, whereas at one time they could deal with everyone personally the requests for their attention become so great that they literally cannot make time to deal with everything.
BUT...That is no excuse if your product doesn't work, I believe that they have a moral obligation to make the situation right, end of story.
I'm assuming that what you bought on Amazon (It was Amazon right?) is still under warranty and everything on that level is on the up and up, the one situation in which I would NOT be on your side is if you were buying a used item that was past its warranty, discovered it didn't work as you hoped and are now saying it's their fault. Under those circumstances, no, it would be YOUR fault.
But I don't see a straight-shooting Texan being like that, so I'll assume you have a covered unit that isn't functioning properly.
In which case...Audient? You need to handle this guy's issue.
Eagerly awaiting the ID66 (Hit me up if you need a re-cap on what the design needs to be, and don't think I don't have some ideas worth hearing, Novation listened to me when designing the Circuit and that worked out all right for them.)
 (Hit me up if you need a re-cap on what the design needs to be, and don't think I don't have some ideas worth hearing, Novation listened to me when designing the Circuit and that worked out all right for them.)
			
			
									
						
						Conversely, I am not a dedicated follower of any brand. I am a songwriter signed to a significant label who is fairly well known and does excellent business, as such I contacted Audient prior to their release of the new ID44 and expressed my concern that they were going in the wrong direction with the product. I told them there were a couple of tweaks that would make it appeal to a much wider audience and become a "Must have" for many, they didn't listen, SO I'M NOT BUYING ONE...period (These weren't just things that would have appealed to me only, they were reasonable tweaks that would have benefitted all customers and added little cost to produce the unit)
I never had a hard time getting a hold of them, I remember when I needed to know the workaround to the weird behavior on outs 3&4 of the ID22, they got back to me with detailed instructions,
I remember when I wanted to daisy chain my ID22 and ID14 (which is basically the equivalent of an ID44 and less expensive, one of the things I brought to their attention) they got back to me with instructions AND mixer preset files designed specifically for me, I appreciated that,
I fear that they may be suffering from something I've seen from other companies. When a company gets too big too fast they don't have the infrastructure to deal with issues like this, whereas at one time they could deal with everyone personally the requests for their attention become so great that they literally cannot make time to deal with everything.
BUT...That is no excuse if your product doesn't work, I believe that they have a moral obligation to make the situation right, end of story.
I'm assuming that what you bought on Amazon (It was Amazon right?) is still under warranty and everything on that level is on the up and up, the one situation in which I would NOT be on your side is if you were buying a used item that was past its warranty, discovered it didn't work as you hoped and are now saying it's their fault. Under those circumstances, no, it would be YOUR fault.
But I don't see a straight-shooting Texan being like that, so I'll assume you have a covered unit that isn't functioning properly.
In which case...Audient? You need to handle this guy's issue.
Eagerly awaiting the ID66
 (Hit me up if you need a re-cap on what the design needs to be, and don't think I don't have some ideas worth hearing, Novation listened to me when designing the Circuit and that worked out all right for them.)
 (Hit me up if you need a re-cap on what the design needs to be, and don't think I don't have some ideas worth hearing, Novation listened to me when designing the Circuit and that worked out all right for them.)- 
				
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Re: Audient id14 not powering Neumann TLM 103, but Focusrite 2i2 will....
I missed the announcement that it was Open Season on Audient!
So what?
So you're saying your opinion is more important than that of the Audient marketing team and because they thought better you SHOUT about not buying one... period! Do you shout with such negativity about every other interface you didn't buy? Or did they bruise your ego?
Good, neither would trumpetsizzle if he gave them his contact details, which has been requested several times in this thread.
They are trying very hard to fix the issue - have you not read their responses in this thread?
Sounds like this guy's 'Issue', like your own, is not handleable and I'm not talking about hardware!
As a matter of interest, do you happen to be a resident of the land of fake news as well? There seems to be a temporal distortion over that way just now which is affecting people's ability to be cognisant of reality and facts........
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													Terrible.dee wrote: I am a songwriter signed to a significant label who is fairly well known and does excellent business.......
So what?
Terrible.dee wrote:....... I contacted Audient prior to their release of the new ID44 and expressed my concern that they were going in the wrong direction with the product. I told them there were a couple of tweaks that would make it appeal to a much wider audience and become a "Must have" for many, they didn't listen, SO I'M NOT BUYING ONE...period
So you're saying your opinion is more important than that of the Audient marketing team and because they thought better you SHOUT about not buying one... period! Do you shout with such negativity about every other interface you didn't buy? Or did they bruise your ego?
Terrible.dee wrote:I never had a hard time getting a hold of them
Good, neither would trumpetsizzle if he gave them his contact details, which has been requested several times in this thread.
Terrible.dee wrote: BUT...That is no excuse if your product doesn't work, I believe that they have a moral obligation to make the situation right, end of story.
They are trying very hard to fix the issue - have you not read their responses in this thread?
Terrible.dee wrote: You need to handle this guy's issue.
Sounds like this guy's 'Issue', like your own, is not handleable and I'm not talking about hardware!
As a matter of interest, do you happen to be a resident of the land of fake news as well? There seems to be a temporal distortion over that way just now which is affecting people's ability to be cognisant of reality and facts........
Bob
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Re: Audient id14 not powering Neumann TLM 103, but Focusrite 2i2 will....
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Re: Audient id14 not powering Neumann TLM 103, but Focusrite 2i2 will....
Yes, the guy is a complete (part of the anatomy) and we and Audient will be well shot of him. 
I do however feel that, in this Modern World we have fabulous cheap even free means of communication and yet it often seems much harder to make a simple contact with a company than it was 30 years ago?
I do not see why all companies cannot have a "first contact" email address prominently displayed on their Home Page?
I have been told this is because The Little Guys do not have the time and staff to deal with the emails. Many companies have an email contact but a robot sends you a confirmation of your question. Costly? Don't think so, my surgery has such a system for confirmation of emailed repeat prescriptions.
I do have to say I think there are many companies that do not want to be bothered with Joe Public and make contact needlessly difficult.
I will give all credit to Amazon. I have had nothing but excellent service from them and the few returns I have made have been easily and swiftly dealt with.
I have two complaints,
1) Boxes are often stupidly oversized and stuff is often in a bag, bagged in another PLASTIC bag,
2) Pay more bloody tax!!
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						I do however feel that, in this Modern World we have fabulous cheap even free means of communication and yet it often seems much harder to make a simple contact with a company than it was 30 years ago?
I do not see why all companies cannot have a "first contact" email address prominently displayed on their Home Page?
I have been told this is because The Little Guys do not have the time and staff to deal with the emails. Many companies have an email contact but a robot sends you a confirmation of your question. Costly? Don't think so, my surgery has such a system for confirmation of emailed repeat prescriptions.
I do have to say I think there are many companies that do not want to be bothered with Joe Public and make contact needlessly difficult.
I will give all credit to Amazon. I have had nothing but excellent service from them and the few returns I have made have been easily and swiftly dealt with.
I have two complaints,
1) Boxes are often stupidly oversized and stuff is often in a bag, bagged in another PLASTIC bag,
2) Pay more bloody tax!!
Dave.
Re: Audient id14 not powering Neumann TLM 103, but Focusrite 2i2 will....
blinddrew wrote:And everybody just take a moment and breathe...
Couldn't agree more! It feels a bit like a bandwagon is starting to roll here.
And cut out the negative personal comments please -- it's contrary to the forum rules and not at all helpful to anyone.
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Re: Audient id14 not powering Neumann TLM 103, but Focusrite 2i2 will....
I haven't had to use Audient's support personally but a friend of mine was very impressed when he was able to have a long chat with the designer of one of their old mixing desks. The one bit of kit of theirs that I own was bought as old stock from a dealer. It arrived only partially working but, as I knew the person at the dealer I bought it from, I popped the cover off and found a connector adrift. I am confident that the dealer in question would have sorted things out if I hadn't been able to fix it myself.
I'm likely to be buying more of their kit if things go as expected in the future - it is well designed and works well.
			
			
									
						
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		Re: Audient id14 not powering Neumann TLM 103, but Focusrite 2i2 will....
I've had nothing but excellent support from Audient over the last few years. Very prompt replies once you use the correct channels  
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Re: Audient id14 not powering Neumann TLM 103, but Focusrite 2i2 will....
FINAL UPDATE:
Audient did send 2 emails. Never returned my phone call which was quite disappointing. I paid to call and leave a message to England, but...I am the buyer. Woulda bet money they could have returned my call.
In the end my brand new Audient never would work properly. I returned it and was given a refund by the retailer from amazon.
I decided to move up to the big boys and pull the trigger and get the Universal Apollo Twin Duo for windows/usb.
It worked right out of the box!
I bought it brand new from Ebay and saved a few dollars!
Thanks for everyone's input!
			
			
									
						
						Audient did send 2 emails. Never returned my phone call which was quite disappointing. I paid to call and leave a message to England, but...I am the buyer. Woulda bet money they could have returned my call.
In the end my brand new Audient never would work properly. I returned it and was given a refund by the retailer from amazon.
I decided to move up to the big boys and pull the trigger and get the Universal Apollo Twin Duo for windows/usb.
It worked right out of the box!
I bought it brand new from Ebay and saved a few dollars!
Thanks for everyone's input!
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Good luck with your new interface. Hope you don't have any driver issues. If you do there is a UAD forum where you can post any concerns.
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Oh, I saw you already did.
			
			
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Thanks for the update, and I'm glad you're sorted with the Apollo -- it's a great interface. 
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Re: Audient id14 not powering Neumann TLM 103, but Focusrite 2i2 will....
Oh dear, he’s already claiming the Apollo isn’t working on the UAD forums........
So for the sake of balance, can readers of this thread please note that the likely issues recorded here are more than likely due to operator error!
Audient have a fine reputation which does not deserve to be tarnished by such ego-fuelled imbecilic ranting...... just my opinion of course....
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						So for the sake of balance, can readers of this thread please note that the likely issues recorded here are more than likely due to operator error!
Audient have a fine reputation which does not deserve to be tarnished by such ego-fuelled imbecilic ranting...... just my opinion of course....
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Re: Audient id14 not powering Neumann TLM 103, but Focusrite 2i2 will....
Bob Bickerton wrote:Audient have a fine reputation...
They do, and rightly so, as many other happy customers have already attested in this thread.
But the OP has said (here, at least) that he's happy with his new Apollo, so I think we should draw a neat line under this thread there without casting aspersions, and leave readers to draw their own conclusions!
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Re: Audient id14 not powering Neumann TLM 103, but Focusrite 2i2 will....
No need for this.
			
			
									
						
						
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Re: Audient id14 not powering Neumann TLM 103, but Focusrite 2i2 will....
May I respectfully call the forum’s attention to the first five characters of the OP’s username ?
			
			
									
						
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The offending and offensive post has been deleted. And the OP has a one month ban.
If he returns with a similar attitude that will become a permant ban.
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