Is there any chance you could share the original Alesis drivers and the latest fixed ones if possible, so i can install them on my old Win XP laptop? I have seen this keyboard for sale at a local studio clearance, and it looks ideal for what I need and is in mint condition. There seems to be no trace of them on the Alesis website.
The X25 is "class-compliant" which is why it works with the iPad. It doesn't need any drivers for Windows 7/10, not sure about XP but the chances are that you can plug it in and it will work.
Actually, I just rummaged through my files and found soemthing called:
AlesisPhotonX25-usbfix_v1_04.zip - which mentions WinXP in the readme file.
Don't remember using this, so you would be on your own. I will PM you with a link.
Can anyone give me an idiot's guide to recording digital audio from an iPad into Protools? I have a number of synths, like Animoog and want to play them in real times as I am recording on Protools.
I have tried to follow various guides (one is from Sweetwater iOS update and discusses Inter App Audio and currently have set up and Aggregate I/O. I have connected the iPad via lightning connector and have enabled it in Audio-Midi setup/audio devices. The ipad comes up as having an input but the output is greyed out. Next to iPad it says 2 ins/0 outs.
I have opened Pro Tools and selected the playback engine as aggregate . I have then gone to I/O and under inputs, it says built in microphone. With output, it says Built in output. I was expecting the input to have a built in input but it doesn't - only built in microphone.
I have tried deleting the I/Os and selecting default but there is no sign of the iPad. Help!!
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Re: Audio/MIDI USB interfaces for the iPad/iPhone etc
Just adding the Focusrite iTrack Dock, which works fine via the Lightning connector.
Well, "fine" ... but with caveats. I use an iPad Air, but I think some thinner iPads need an extra shim so that the port/connector is correctly aligned. Another niggle: even some class-compliant USB MIDI controllers don't work (when they should, including some Korgs), and there are no 5-pin MIDI ports to use as an alternative. I'm currently using a Keystep.
And another, more annoying one (a facepalm-level design flaw): an electric guitar plugged into the Hi-Z input has excessive noise when recording. Because there's no grounding via the iTrack! So you get all of the 50Hz EMF hum that your guitar pickups can suck out of the air.
Workaround: to get the lowest noise floor, you can ground the unit another way. At home I did this by plugging the unused input into a nearby Integra 7's headphone socket (Integra is a proper device, with a permanently grounded chassis and jacks even when switched off). The noise floor was then normal. Same should be true if you plugged the iTracks outputs into some grounded active monitors.
I'm running quantiloop pro on my ipad 3rd generation (30pin connector). I want to connect my usb alesis io2 souncard to the ipad so that I can use the inputs on the soudcard to play and record loops on guitar/vox. I went and bough a camera connection kit (30pin to usb adapter) and a usb 3.0 power hub. When connecting the hub into the ipad I get a message 'USB hub 2.0: the connected device requires too much power'. This is happening before I connect the soundcard into the usb hub which leads me to think the usb hub is not working might not be compatible with the camera connection kit?
The other issue that comes to mind is newer versions of the ipad run usb-c to apple lighting/usb 3 connector which means the ipad gets power from connection the charger into the usb 3 socket. Could this be the issue as my ipad is not getting power from anywhere?
'USB hub 2.0: the connected device requires too much power'. This is happening before I connect the soundcard into the usb hub which leads me to think the usb hub is not working might not be compatible with the camera connection kit?
It sounds like the hub is not receiving power independently (presumably you have an AC-DC adaptor for it) and is therefore trying to draw power from the iPad. Can you check this? For example, does the hub power/charge other devices (keyboard, phone etc?). iPads are fussy (by design) as to which peripherals they will work with. Cheap (non-apple) options can fail, but then again, there are usually no apple-produced options for older devices like your 30-pin iPad.
Also, I recall that the Alesis "iO2 express" will not work with the iPad, irrespective of power arrangements. I hope you have the older iO2, which is at least theoretically compatible if you can get the power issue resolved.
I'm running quantiloop pro on my ipad 3rd generation (30pin connector). I want to connect my usb alesis io2 souncard to the ipad so that I can use the inputs on the soudcard to play and record loops on guitar/vox. I went and bough a camera connection kit (30pin to usb adapter) and a usb 3.0 power hub. When connecting the hub into the ipad I get a message 'USB hub 2.0: the connected device requires too much power'. This is happening before I connect the soundcard into the usb hub which leads me to think the usb hub is not working might not be compatible with the camera connection kit?
One thing: Apple lies about USB power consumption. On some models on later versions of iOS, a USB device which won't work (popping up the message you saw). But it WILL work when connected via an UNPOWERED hub! Sounds completely batty but it's true. See here for one example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-I-nnocYtU
Of course, this might not be the only problem you have if the Alesis is not iOS compatible.
(Like you I have a 3rd gen iPad and Apple's CCK and after an iOS update the USB thumb drive I had suddenly "consumes too much power". Complete Apple BS. I got a £2 unpowered USB hub as shown in that video and the thumb drive now works fine. I'm pretty sure that Apple's arrogance makes third party suppliers think twice about making devices for iOS.)
BillB wrote:The X25 is "class-compliant" which is why it works with the iPad. It doesn't need any drivers for Windows 7/10, not sure about XP but the chances are that you can plug it in and it will work.
Actually, I just rummaged through my files and found soemthing called:
AlesisPhotonX25-usbfix_v1_04.zip - which mentions WinXP in the readme file.
Don't remember using this, so you would be on your own. I will PM you with a link.
Bill
Hi, Bill.
I'm looking forward for the PhotonX25USBfix_v1_04.zip file. Do you have it? If so, will you send a valid link for downloading it? I'm driving crazy looking for it in internet!
Thanks a lot.
Escapegoat, I have had that warning about a memory stick, "Insufficient power for device" on a desktop PC even though the same port would happily run a bus powered AI!
I don't think it is just (or at all?) a power issue, maybe more a "handshake" problem?
Working on Windows 10 !!!!!
Thanks a lot, BillB!!!!
But it was a headache to install windows XP with a virtual machine, and to have the files in the XP system. It couldn't read an USB device, it couldn't share files with host machine (running virtual machine under windows vista), it could't connect to internet neither via WiFi nor via ethernet cable. Finally, I decide to try with a really really legacy device: a CD
Surprisingly,I found a blank CD in a drawer, I burned it and... it worked!!!!!!!!!
Now, my alesis Photon X25 works perfectly in Ableton 10 Live! Even the axyz 3D controller dome!!!!!!!!
Thanks again, BillB for bringing to life my old Photon X25!!!!
I had to do an all battery powered gig this summer including the PA.
I was running two mics into Quantiloop running a few tasty FX then passing it back out to the PA.
I bought the Zoom U-24. It’s a fantastic interface and very versatile. Battery life was good but I turned it off between sets so can’t say how long they last. It’s not as solidly built as say the H4N so I wish there was a plastic case for it to protect it during travel like there is for the H4N.
2 mics/Zoom/latest CCK/iPad Pro
while sending the outputs of the Zoom to the PA and headphones and the H4N recorder.
First post here - HI EVERYBODY. Made an act after seeing this iOS section of the site.
Currently running ALL sounds / synths / drum samples from iPad Pro 2 into Ableton 10.
I'm using the Zoom U-24 with the USB 3.0 CKK+ and a 30w USB-C (macbook pro) power block. The Zoom handles Audio OUT from the iPad, Audio IN from my guitar (Hi-Z ch.1), and MIDI IN from Ableton.
Connected to the laptop is a Focusrite 2i4 for audio IN from U-24, Audio OUT to a Mackie ProFX8 Mixer/amp/speakers, MIDI OUT to the U-24, plus all the MIDI hardware IN. Routing and recording is handled in Ableton.
I will also occasionally use my old iPad 4 for Touchable Pro (insane ableton control app) or Expression Pad MIDI OUT to the synth on the iPad Pro.
It's taken about 2 years to get this right... but it's finally working to the point I'm satisfied. The sounds + instruments available on iOS are not only high quality, but usually cost 1/10th what they would on PC.
BillB wrote:The X25 is "class-compliant" which is why it works with the iPad. It doesn't need any drivers for Windows 7/10, not sure about XP but the chances are that you can plug it in and it will work.
Actually, I just rummaged through my files and found soemthing called:
AlesisPhotonX25-usbfix_v1_04.zip - which mentions WinXP in the readme file.
Don't remember using this, so you would be on your own. I will PM you with a link.
Bill
Hi, Bill.
I'm looking forward for the PhotonX25USBfix_v1_04.zip file. Do you have it? If so, will you send a valid link for downloading it? I'm driving crazy looking for it in internet!
Thanks a lot.
Any chance I could get a copy of AlesisPhotonX25-usbfix_v1_04.zip and any related files as well? I just picked up a used photonx25 on ebay and it still has the old firmware. Thanks!
I’m a big fan of the Behringer UMC204HD. Got two of them. I’ve had Apogee and others, I don’t see how the Behringer is in any way inferior. I certainly haven’t experienced "muddy" sound with it. The only problem is the prices on the Behringer keep going up. I got both of mine for less than one would cost today.
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Re: Audio/MIDI USB interfaces for the iPad/iPhone etc
yuanyasmine wrote:I’m a big fan of the Behringer UMC204HD. Got two of them. I’ve had Apogee and others, I don’t see how the Behringer is in any way inferior. I certainly haven’t experienced "muddy" sound with it. The only problem is the prices on the Behringer keep going up. I got both of mine for less than one would cost today.
Well they are still £99 at Thomann and Amazon which is what I paid for mine in 2019.
Yes, it is a remarkably good interface for the money and I often point really impecunious newbs that way but I do wish they had given it another 6dB+ of line output...Feeble or what!
Hi I have an RC 505 loop station that I am looking to set up as an audio interface on ipad. Is this possible? I particularly use it for live teaching over zoom and live performance over zoom or facebook live.. thanks! I am finding mixed reports through my searching as to whether this will be possible on ipad?
A quick look at the manual would suggest that the RC-505 cannot be used with an iPad. This is because it requires a driver to be used as an audio/midi interface with a computer. This means it is not ‘class-compliant’, i.e. capable of connecting without a driver. iPads only work with class-compliant USB devices.
The manual says that the RC-505 will work without a driver, but only in mass storage mode, which means that it might be seen as a storage device by the iPad, but not as an interface.
I am not aware of any way around this. USB devices are either capable of being class compliant or they are not, although some can be switched between ‘standard’ mode (class-compliant) and ‘advanced’ mode, where a driver on a Mac or PC might allow a higher specification of connection. No mention of this in the RC-505 manual, so it would seem that you won’t be able to do what you want.
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