Kx audio v kv2 audio

[gsc1ugs]

Does anyone know anything about these 2 if they are same company

[Wonks]

KX Audio is* based in Harrogate https://www.levenly.com/doc/pdf/design_by_kx_audio.pdf. KV2 is in the Czech Republic. https://www.kv2audio.com/about-us.html. KX audio state their equipment is designed by KV2, and it seems KV2 are the parent company of KX Audio. So they are related, but not exactly the same company.

*But the given KX website doesn't work, so I'm not sure if they are still a going concern.

[Mike Stranks]

Two minutes on Google found this:

http://www.etnow.com/news/2008/7/kv2-audio-announce-uk-launch-of-kx-audio-at-plasa-2008

[MarkPAman]

I think the KX speakers were an older version of what is now KV2's EX series.

KV2's UK office/distribution is in Harrogate.

[gsc1ugs]

well... look at me with this, Tom from KV2

"KX Audio was always a separate company using similar technology to KV2, but it was never in the same league as KV2, and as such nothing ever superseded the KX 15 when KX Audio was discontinued.

There is no direct KV2 alternative, although you would get far superior results with a KV2 EX 12 which is more manageable and compact, but sadly (although justifiably) significantly more expensive. You would also get similar output, although not quite as much Low Frequency from the even smaller EX 10.

The differences are numerous, but essentially with KV2 you get the benefits of everything being designed, manufactured and rigorously tested in the Czech Republic using the highest quality EU parts throughout, rather than KX Audio which used a selection of 3rd party components sourced in China, with the cabinets also built in China."

[gsc1ugs]

Is it worth a punt if a speaker cone has been reglued? Kx range

[AlecSp]

Is it worth a punt if a speaker cone has been reglued? Kx range

A perfect match with the budget mg8fx that you seem to be struggling to operate.

Sorry, but it had to be said...

[gsc1ugs]

So what is better than the mg8fx for size?

[Mike Stranks]

So what is better than the mg8fx for size?

Physical size? Number of input channels? Number of output channels? Number of aux sends? What do you mean by 'size'?

Specify what you need in a mixer and what budget you have available we'll make some suggestions.

[gsc1ugs]

Mic channel, guitar channel, left right for mp3 input and effects. Thxs

[Mike Stranks]

Allen & Heath ZED 6FX

https://www.allen-heath.com/ahproducts/zed-6fx/

[gsc1ugs]

Why is that better that better than this?

https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/yamaha-mg82fx

[Mike Stranks]

or:

https://www.thomann.de/gb/allenheath_zed10fx.htm

https://www.thomann.de/gb/allenheath_zed12fx.htm

The issue some of us are trying to get our heads around is that you're contemplating spending literally thousands on a speaker system but then connecting up a simple prosumer mixer to them.

If you insist on a prosumer mixer like the Yamaha at the very least you want a graphic equaliser across the main outputs so that you can 'tune' the system to the room.

Examples:

https://www.thomann.de/gb/dbx_215s.htm

https://www.thomann.de/gb/dbx_231s.htm

With one of those in the chain you'll probably find that your Yamaha speakers are suddenly sounding much better.

NB any boosting of frequencies should be minimal; cutting is much more effective. Over-boosting is a way to damage speakers very very quickly. That said, the Yamahas have enough on-board safety protection to shut down should you get carried away.

[gsc1ugs]

Would i not have same problem none existent effects?

[AlecSp]

The issue some of us are trying to get our heads around is that you're contemplating spending literally thousands on a speaker system but then connecting up a simple prosumer mixer to them.

And which, based on other posts, the operation of which you are mystified by.

With [a Graphic EQ] in the chain you'll probably find that your Yamaha speakers are suddenly sounding much better.

If used capably, but can be a tool to screw up your sound even more, if used less than capably.

With all we've heard, your best bet is to spend some money on a capable person to help you understand how to use a PA system.

The best PA system will only sound as good as the performers and the operator can make them. With decent talent, even cheap gear can do a reasonable job.

[Mike Stranks]

Just to emphasise the point...

With all we've heard, your best bet is to spend some money on a capable person to help you understand how to [set up and] use a PA system.

[gsc1ugs]

Can i ask, why the allen heath desk and if i only have 2 sound sources will the channel eq not surfice? If ihave to go through a graphic, whats the smallest good one to use. Thxs

[Drew Stephenson]

Over-simplifying slightly: the channel eq is there to help you get that source sounding right, the graphic is there to help deal with the room.
Different tools for different jobs.

[gsc1ugs]

Thats the eq answered, why the allen heath drak over the yamaha please?

[dickiefunk]

I have used the KX12’s and KX 1.2 and 1.5 subs a venue where I run the sound and have also had a fair amount of experience with the KV2 EX6, EX10, EX12 and EX1.2 and EX2.2 subs.
Firstly, the KX Audio systems are actually very decent sounding. In fact, I would put them above pretty much all MI products I’ve tried so far. They are pretty heavy though and I wouldn’t want to be lugging these around by myself on a regular basis.
However, whilst the KX Audio systems sound really good, the KV2 systems are in a different league. Even the tiny EX6/EX1.2 system is capable of an astonishingly high output, fidelity and depth of bass. I recently heard a fully miked band (drums, 5 string bass, acoustic guitar, electric guitar, 2x keys and 4 vocals) through a pair of EX6’s over a single EX1.2 sub and my jaw dropped at how big and clear the sound was!! I couldn’t believe the punch and depth of the drums and bass (even the low B string) and there was so much separation between all the vocals and instruments! When I spoke to the engineer I was even more blown away that the system was just ticking over and had masses of headroom left! If I had the budget, I would get one of these in a heart beat. However, this quality comes at a price!
The bigger systems sound even more impressive but are a two person job to setup!

[AlecSp]

However, whilst the KX Audio systems sound really good, the KV2 systems are in a different league.

And therein lies the rub.

Whilst you can plat at the "few" hundred pounds mark for "servicable" but nothing special speakers, many of us round here are into decent MI kit, like RCF ART, Yamaha DXR/DSR and so on which run around the GBP 1,000 per speaker.

Above that are proper pro speakers from people like Nexo, D&B AudioTechnik, L'acoustics, Meyer and so on. They take performance and headroom to a different level, along with pattern control. But come at a price most of us would balk at, as well as typically being super heavy.

Once again, what does "best" mean? For me, it's a performance/weight priority, with money less important. For others, it's price before anything. Yet others, it'll be pattern control & performance. And so on...

[gsc1ugs]

Ive just compared these side by side with my DXR15's DXR all the way - i suppose this stuff really is for the outside market

[Andy Lewis]

I have had various lower end RCF setups inc HD32-a and have used plenty of gear over a 15yr period.
My main FOH PA is now Kv2 EX12 with a single EX 2.5 sub.
It is very, very good. Very controlled and precise and runs very loud if needed.
Heavy (and expensive) though. But whole other world away from say HD32-a / DXR15 / ART 922a etc

[Mike Stranks]

I find the whole area of 'newbie posters' and 'zombie threads' (as termed by HR) fascinating. In this case a thread that's been dormant for over 3 years...

Is it that when forum newbies arrive they have a look around and see a post/thread that they 'like' or feel that they can comment on, but don't notice the elapsed time... or something else?

Not a 'pop' at this particular poster, just an observation on recent resuscitations... all from newbie posters...

[Hugh Robjohns]

I think because SOS scores so highly in Google searches, people Googling for an audio subject of interest are often directed to SOS forum threads, many of which will no longer be current, and then they contribute and revive the thread.

Clearly, that kind of thing isn't malicious, but it does raise eyebrows amongst the mod team (and former mods!) as its also a common tactic of brain-dead spammers.