Logic Pro X 10.4.5 update released

For current or would-be users of Apple Mac computers, with answers to many FAQs.
Post Reply

Logic Pro X 10.4.5 update released

Post by muzines »

As expected, a new Logic version that likely matches the specs Apple demoed and posted at WWDC (eg, an increase in the maximum number of supported tracks per object type from 256 to 1000).

In the app store now.

Release notes to follow...

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2019/06/ ... w-mac-pro/

Improved Performance

Improves responsiveness of the Mixer and Event List when working with large sessions
Projects with numerous Flex Time edits and tempo changes perform more efficiently
Optimizes performance for Mac Pro including support for up to 56 processing threads
This update also contains additional stability and performance improvements
Increased Number of Tracks and Channels, up to:

1000 stereo audio channel strips
1000 software instrument channel strips
1000 auxiliary channel strips
1000 external MIDI tracks
12 sends per channel strip

New Features

The Loop Browser can filter by loop type and allows drag and drop of multiple loops into your project simultaneously
Redesigned DeEsser 2 plug-in provides more options to reduce sibilance on audio tracks
Send MIDI beat clock to individual ports, each with unique settings like timing offset and plug-in delay compensation

Requires High Sierra.
Last edited by muzines on Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:40 pm, edited 4 times in total.
User avatar
muzines
Jedi Poster
Posts: 12332 Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:00 am
..............................mu:zines | music magazine archive | difficultAudio  | Legacy Logic Project Conversion

Re: Logic Pro X 10.4.5 update released

Post by muzines »

Release notes:

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203718

*Many* performance improvements, they weren't joking about focusing the release on performance...
Last edited by muzines on Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
muzines
Jedi Poster
Posts: 12332 Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:00 am
..............................mu:zines | music magazine archive | difficultAudio  | Legacy Logic Project Conversion

Re: Logic Pro X 10.4.5 update released

Post by Kevin Nolan »

Is that 1000 of each kind simultaneously - or 1000 in total?
Kevin Nolan
Frequent Poster
Posts: 844 Joined: Sun Jan 12, 2003 12:00 am

Re: Logic Pro X 10.4.5 update released

Post by muzines »

Kevin Nolan wrote:Is that 1000 of each kind simultaneously - or 1000 in total?

1000 of each audio object type (previously 256).

So you can have projects with 1000 audio tracks *and* 1000 instrument tracks *and* 1000 MIDI tracks etc.
User avatar
muzines
Jedi Poster
Posts: 12332 Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:00 am
..............................mu:zines | music magazine archive | difficultAudio  | Legacy Logic Project Conversion

Re: Logic Pro X 10.4.5 update released

Post by Kevin Nolan »

That's very impressive!
Kevin Nolan
Frequent Poster
Posts: 844 Joined: Sun Jan 12, 2003 12:00 am

Re: Logic Pro X 10.4.5 update released

Post by rzzz »

LPX 10.4.5 features that are much more useful to those of us without 2019 Mac Pros:

https://www.pro-tools-expert.com/logic- ... everything

rz
rzzz
New here
Posts: 10 Joined: Thu Mar 28, 2019 8:02 pm

Re: Logic Pro X 10.4.5 update released

Post by Dave B »

Looks interesting.

Slight thread hijack here, but I do a fair amount of work where you zoom right in on a track (for lining up against others, working out good edit points) and use the slider for horizontal zoom. Once it gets right down to a fine level, it invariably decides to scroll the view past the cursor, so I then have to re-find it to carry on. PITA frankly. Is there some way to lock the window so that the zoom expands in equal measures from the cursor?
User avatar
Dave B
Longtime Poster
Posts: 5935 Joined: Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:00 am Location: Maidenhead
Veni, Vidi, Aesculi (I came, I saw, I conkered)

Re: Logic Pro X 10.4.5 update released

Post by muzines »

Dave B wrote:Slight thread hijack here, but I do a fair amount of work where you zoom right in on a track (for lining up against others, working out good edit points) and use the slider for horizontal zoom. Once it gets right down to a fine level, it invariably decides to scroll the view past the cursor, so I then have to re-find it to carry on. PITA frankly. Is there some way to lock the window so that the zoom expands in equal measures from the cursor?

I just tried what you describe here, and by default, when not playing, the horizontal slider zooms centered in on the playhead - ie, as I change the horizontal zoom, the playhead stays where it is on screen, and the content zooms in/out centered on that, which is I think the behaviour that you're asking for, unless I'm not clear on what you're trying to do...

Image
Last edited by muzines on Fri Jun 14, 2019 11:30 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
muzines
Jedi Poster
Posts: 12332 Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:00 am
..............................mu:zines | music magazine archive | difficultAudio  | Legacy Logic Project Conversion

Re: Logic Pro X 10.4.5 update released

Post by Dave B »

That's exactly it Desmond - but mine doesn't do that. I was in the middle of spring cleaning / defumigating chez moi, but I'll have to take a break shortly and have a try....

(In other, totally unrelated news, vacuum cleaners work so much better when you empty them and clean out all the filters...who'da thunk?)

:D
User avatar
Dave B
Longtime Poster
Posts: 5935 Joined: Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:00 am Location: Maidenhead
Veni, Vidi, Aesculi (I came, I saw, I conkered)

Re: Logic Pro X 10.4.5 update released

Post by MOF »

mine doesn't do that.

I think you need to change the playhead position preferences, see https://support.apple.com/kb/PH24710?lo ... cale=en_US
MOF
Frequent Poster
Posts: 2578 Joined: Thu Mar 06, 2003 12:00 am Location: United Kingdom

Re: Logic Pro X 10.4.5 update released

Post by muzines »

MOF wrote:I think you need to change the playhead position preferences, see https://support.apple.com/kb/PH24710?lo ... cale=en_US

I don't see why the various catch mode options would have any affect on this.
Those modes just determine how the playhead moves on playback.

For me, Logic always horizontally zooms on the playhead if it's in the visible window. If the playhead is outside the visible area (ie, further on in the song outside the current window view), then Logic doesn't scroll around the playhead - if there is a region selected, it will zoom around that, and if nothing is selected, it will just zoom from the start of the song.

Actually, the horizontal slider zoom will favour selected regions over the playhead position, by the looks - also the same with command+alt+2-finger up/down.
Last edited by muzines on Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:48 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
muzines
Jedi Poster
Posts: 12332 Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:00 am
..............................mu:zines | music magazine archive | difficultAudio  | Legacy Logic Project Conversion

Re: Logic Pro X 10.4.5 update released

Post by Dave B »

Cheers MOF - will look into that. I can make it work both ways in Logic 10.4.4 so I'll dig a little deeper.

BUT .... I've just noticed that my current system is only running Sierra (nice and stable so I didn't change it) and Logic 10.4.5 needs a minimum of MacOS 10.13.6 apparently. So I now face the dilemma of 'do I go to straight to Mojave? or do I try and persuade it to find High Sierra and just go to that?'

I'm backing up now and am tempted to go straight to 10.14 ... it _should_ be stable now ... he says clenching ... As long as Apple don't scupper the Firewire ports, I'm sure my system should be fine..
User avatar
Dave B
Longtime Poster
Posts: 5935 Joined: Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:00 am Location: Maidenhead
Veni, Vidi, Aesculi (I came, I saw, I conkered)

Re: Logic Pro X 10.4.5 update released

Post by muzines »

Dave B wrote:BUT .... I've just noticed that my current system is only running Sierra (nice and stable so I didn't change it) and Logic 10.4.5 needs a minimum of MacOS 10.13.6 apparently. So I now face the dilemma of 'do I go to straight to Mojave? or do I try and persuade it to find High Sierra and just go to that?'

Will your 2010 machine run Mojave? I think you need a Metal-capable GFX card to run Mojave...
Last edited by muzines on Fri Jun 14, 2019 2:50 pm, edited 2 times in total.
User avatar
muzines
Jedi Poster
Posts: 12332 Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:00 am
..............................mu:zines | music magazine archive | difficultAudio  | Legacy Logic Project Conversion

Re: Logic Pro X 10.4.5 update released

Post by Dave B »

My studio machine is a Mini - 2012/13 iirc.. I'm fairly sure it's the same vintage as this Mini I'm typing on and that's on Mojave. I've just realised that this has FW and I have a spare interface, so might to a quick FW / audio test on this to see what's what.
User avatar
Dave B
Longtime Poster
Posts: 5935 Joined: Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:00 am Location: Maidenhead
Veni, Vidi, Aesculi (I came, I saw, I conkered)

Re: Logic Pro X 10.4.5 update released

Post by muzines »

Ok, that should be fine for the Mo'...
User avatar
muzines
Jedi Poster
Posts: 12332 Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:00 am
..............................mu:zines | music magazine archive | difficultAudio  | Legacy Logic Project Conversion

Re: Logic Pro X 10.4.5 update released

Post by Dave B »

Just run a test on this one and I was able to install (ok .. a little grumbling about certificates, but basically nothing went wrong) the last version of the Focusrite installer for my 'small' interface, so I'm guessing that it should all be happy. As I said, I'm running a backup anyway in case it all goes wahoonie shaped.

And the bit about zooming with a region selected. Hmmm... that may be some of the issue - will have a look at that. Thanks chaps.
User avatar
Dave B
Longtime Poster
Posts: 5935 Joined: Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:00 am Location: Maidenhead
Veni, Vidi, Aesculi (I came, I saw, I conkered)

Re: Logic Pro X 10.4.5 update released

Post by MOF »

I don't see why the various catch mode options would have any affect on this.

I didn’t (and don’t currently have Logic open) when I answered your query but I think that if the playhead is anywhere but dead centre of the arrangement when you zoom in it will zoom in to the centre of the arrangement, not where you want it to go i.e. the playhead position.
MOF
Frequent Poster
Posts: 2578 Joined: Thu Mar 06, 2003 12:00 am Location: United Kingdom

Re: Logic Pro X 10.4.5 update released

Post by muzines »

MOF wrote:I didn’t (and don’t currently have Logic open) when I answered your query but I think that if the playhead is anywhere but dead centre of the arrangement when you zoom in it will zoom in to the centre of the arrangement, not where you want it to go i.e. the playhead position.

Hmm, not here it doesn't, at least in 10.4.4 - I described the behaviour of LPX above...
Last edited by muzines on Fri Jun 14, 2019 5:53 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
muzines
Jedi Poster
Posts: 12332 Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:00 am
..............................mu:zines | music magazine archive | difficultAudio  | Legacy Logic Project Conversion

Re: Logic Pro X 10.4.5 update released

Post by G-Doubleyou »

Wow, didn't expect it to drop so soon!

:o
User avatar
G-Doubleyou
Frequent Poster
Posts: 972 Joined: Fri Feb 10, 2006 12:00 am
G-Dub Studio G-fx 2011 15inch 2.0GHz quad-core i7 Macbook Pro, LPX 10.3.2
2.3 GHz quad-core i7 Mini

Re: Logic Pro X 10.4.5 update released

Post by Dave B »

Mojave update done. Currently updating Logic.

As regards my other query, I think I understand what's happening. If a region is selected when zooming in, then the zoom in seems to lock onto the very start of the region and expand from there. I sometimes do a fair amount of fine editing on long regions, so I cut them to move bits and I think that I'm leaving something selected which is causing me headaches. At least I now know!

Logic installed. Let's give it a whirl... all seems to be running fine. But my projects aren't heavy - just a bunch of long files. Ho hum
User avatar
Dave B
Longtime Poster
Posts: 5935 Joined: Thu Apr 03, 2003 12:00 am Location: Maidenhead
Veni, Vidi, Aesculi (I came, I saw, I conkered)

Re: Logic Pro X 10.4.5 update released

Post by muzines »

Dave B wrote:If a region is selected when zooming in, then the zoom in seems to lock onto the very start of the region and expand from there.

Yep. There are plenty of other tools and key commands for zooming too, maybe explore some of them and see whether they work for you as well...
User avatar
muzines
Jedi Poster
Posts: 12332 Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:00 am
..............................mu:zines | music magazine archive | difficultAudio  | Legacy Logic Project Conversion

Re: Logic Pro X 10.4.5 update released

Post by Dr Huge Longjohns »

For me, Logic always horizontally zooms on the playhead if it's in the visible window.

Not true for me. If you have more than one regions on the track you have to select the SPECIFIC region, or have NO regions selected, otherwise you get the behaviour Dave B is commenting about. In other words, don't select the whole track, ie all regions, from the track header, just select the region that you want to zoom in on, or select nothing at all! Odd but true.
Last edited by Dr Huge Longjohns on Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:01 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
Dr Huge Longjohns
Frequent Poster
Posts: 3953 Joined: Thu Apr 10, 2003 12:00 am Location: Gallifrey
"The performance is 99.9% of what people hear"- J. Leckie
"It's all complete nonsense, anyone who knows what they're doing can deliver great results with whatever comes to hand" - H. Robjohns
Post Reply