Mounting an Akai (S1000) format

[baward]

Please excuse me if I appear thick, but where can I find my outbox? (it just occurred to me that perhaps there is no outbox because I only think I've sent you a message?)

Ben

[muzines]

It’s the menu option immediately below Inbox...

Try this:
https://www.soundonsound.com/forum/ucp. ... der=outbox

[baward]

Thanks. I am convinced I wasn't getting all those options on my control panel before. I will send you a (new) private message.

[baward]

As I seem to be having problems using the messaging system (I have been using Safari for a few months but have switched back to Chrome and I seem to have more options), can I email you at Muzines.co.uk?

Regards,
Ben

[muzines]

Sure.

[baward]

Thanks, link sent.

[baward]

...at least I tried to send it, but I am getting an error from my ISP: "The response from the remote server was: 550 High probability of spam"

Ben

[Drew Stephenson]

Just tell Desmond you'll buy him a pint, stop trying to give him a share of the money that Nigerian prince is going to send you.

[Eddy Deegan]

...at least I tried to send it, but I am getting an error from my ISP: "The response from the remote server was: 550 High probability of spam"

Ben

It might be worth trying again with some friendly waffle in the message body. There is a common form of automated spam that consists of only a link in the body text - you may have seen them yourself. They often come from a spoofed address of someone in your contacts, or who has you in theirs, and consist of a message along the lines of:

"Hi <your name> - <a link>"

I suspect the mail server is judging your message on this basis, or something like it. If you spell out the link in words and/or pad out the message a bit then that might solve the problem.

[baward]

Thanks Eddy, I will have another bash. Although there was more that I didn't quote, viz

The response from the remote server was:
550 High probability of spam

Reporting-MTA: dns; googlemail.com
Received-From-MTA: dns; baward@gmail.com
Arrival-Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2019 05:16:59 -0700 (PDT)
X-Original-Message-ID: <B670229B-0C01-4988-A126-7C9F786EF241@gmail.com>

Final-Recipient: rfc822; info@muzines.co.uk
Action: failed
Status: 5.0.0
Remote-MTA: dns; mx1.cloudhosting.co.uk. (77.72.6.25, the server for the
domain muzines.co.uk.)
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 High probability of spam
Last-Attempt-Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2019 05:17:06 -0700 (PDT)

From: Ben Ward <baward@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: mu:zines - attn Desmond
Date: 4 July 2019 at 13:16:58 BST
To: muzines <info@muzines.co.uk>

[then my message]

I will try from a different email address and see if that works.

[baward]

No, no improvement:

Delivery to the following recipients failed permanently:

* info@muzines.co.uk

Reason: A message that you sent to the following recipient could not be delivered due to a permanent error. ** The remote server ?? responded with: ** info@muzines.co.uk ??:?? This message was created automatically by mail delivery software on the server .

Reporting-MTA: dns; avasout02 [212.159.14.17]
Received-From-MTA: dns; bs-imac.lan [80.229.147.217]
Arrival-Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2019 21:37:38 +0100

Final-recipient: rfc822; info@muzines.co.uk
Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 550 High probability of spam

Last-attempt-Date: Thu, 04 Jul 2019 21:37:40 +0100

[muzines]

Sorry you had some issues with this.

I just dug into my mail server's spam system and saw your emails had been quarantined as spam, probably due to subject lines such as "Attn: desmond" and containing a link which look a bit spammy - I've whitelisted you, but no need to send it again as I've got the link now, downloading, I'll take a look at your file and see what I can do...

[baward]

I'm grateful, thanks!

[muzines]

I finally got an opportunity to do what the ByteNoise web page outlines. It has allowed me to create a 537Mb .iso file of the disc content (yay!) but I can't seem to progress as I don't have the full Kontakt 5 and Kontakt 5 Player won't play ball.

Is this the file you sent me? The one you sent me has a "cdr" extension, not iso, and is 610MB... (I'm just checking)

Also, according the manual, only the 32 bit version of Kontakt has the necessary libraries for reading non-native formats, any 64-bit version can't do it (so it's old versions, in any case, which I don't have to hand) and I can't see anything in the Ableton Live manual at all about reading/converting Akai format disks...

So, back to Logic 7.x - I didn't have any success with your file. Either the disk is some other format than Akai S1000 format, or it wasn't imaged correctly.

Tech details - I ran El Cap in a VM, ran Logic 7.2 with the EXS24 in Akai import mode so it's waiting for an Akai format disk to show up to convert, as usual.

I then connected your disk image as a CD, and the OS correctly says "I can't read this, eject or ignore". You click ignore to leave it accessible to the system, and at this point the EXS24 should recognise the presence of the Akai disk, and show it's data ready for conversion. However, it just sits in "Waiting for Akai CD" and doesn't see anything to convert.

I'll try an old Windows system with Logic 5.x if I can dig out the files and see if that will recognise it...

Can you give me the details of this disk - name, company, anything you have that I can search for and see what details I can find? Maybe it's not an S1000 format?

[muzines]

Same results with Logic 6.3 on Snow Leopard... No valid S1000 disks are seen when this disk image is inserted...

[Dashanna]

I need to access Akai sampler floppy-discs from time to time, and keep an ancient Toshiba Satellite 4600 laptop with integral floppy-drive to do so.

On that, I use the old AkaiDisk utility to read from and write wav files to my sampler via the floppy.

If your disk is completely S1000 compatible, then I'm thinking the above set-up might work for you.

-

AkaiDisk is fussy as to floppy/PC combinations - and the Satellite was the first laptop I found that would work, and that had USB for a memory stick to transfer wav files to.

(Had to replace my 4600 with a 'new' one recently, as the mouse pad failed, cost me less than £30.)

[Eddy Deegan]

I finally got an opportunity to do what the ByteNoise web page outlines. It has allowed me to create a 537Mb .iso file of the disc content (yay!) but I can't seem to progress as I don't have the full Kontakt 5 and Kontakt 5 Player won't play ball.

Is this the file you sent me? The one you sent me has a "cdr" extension, not iso, and is 610MB... (I'm just checking)

Looks like the wrong file to me. The 'dd' command as outlined on the ByteNoise site should work for any CD the drive can physically read because it bypasses the filesystem and reads raw data.

Also, as Desmond implies, if you entered the command as shown you would not end up with a .cdr extension so you may have linked to a file created during earlier attempt using a different method.

The 'dd' command is definitely the way to go, it's been around for decades and is a tried and tested means of reading from devices and filesystems of all kinds.

I would retry the ByteNoise method, get the correct .iso from the 'dd' command and try that.

[Eddy Deegan]

I need to access Akai sampler floppy-discs from time to time, and keep an ancient Toshiba Satellite 4600 laptop with integral floppy-drive to do so.
...
If your disk is completely S1000 compatible, then I'm thinking the above set-up might work for you.

Useful info if trying to extract data from floppies, but baward is trying to extract data from a CD

[baward]

Hi thanks for continuing to investigate this mystery. The file I send you was called PIONEER BD-RW BDR-XD05 Media.cdr.zip which I'm sure isn't the best format!

The CDROM is 'Korg Universe Vol.1' from Best Service in Germany, who are still in business I believe. I have dug out their email address and have emailed them to ask if they have any advice. I'll report back...

The only reference I have been able to find on the disc are from decidedly dodgy looking websites.

[Eddy Deegan]

Can you not follow the procedure outlined on the ByteNoise site? Really, the .iso file produced by the 'dd' command documented there should work for Desmond just fine.

You said you'd done it:

I finally got an opportunity to do what the ByteNoise web page outlines. It has allowed me to create a 537Mb .iso file of the disc content

As the file you sent was a different size, it looks like you sent the wrong one and the solution is probably as simple as sending him the .iso you created above!

[baward]

I would retry the ByteNoise method, get the correct .iso from the 'dd' command and try that.

I will give it another bash. Thank you for your help!

[baward]

I need to access Akai sampler floppy-discs from time to time, and keep an ancient Toshiba Satellite 4600 laptop with integral floppy-drive to do so.

Many thanks, Dashanna

[baward]

I would retry the ByteNoise method, get the correct .iso from the 'dd' command and try that.

I will give it another bash. Thank you for your help!

I do still have the .iso (disk5s0.iso, disc5 being what that dd command identified my CD drive to be) that I made using the ByteNoise website. I had zipped it up as Desmond requested and the resulting file is what I had sent to him.

[Eddy Deegan]

I would retry the ByteNoise method, get the correct .iso from the 'dd' command and try that.

I will give it another bash. Thank you for your help!

I do still have the .iso (disk5s0.iso, disc5 being what that dd command identified my CD drive to be) that I made using the ByteNoise website. I had zipped it up as Desmond requested and the resulting file is what I had sent to him.

I'm curious as to why it had a .cdr extension though, and also why it was bigger in size than the .iso file you mentioned before. ZIPing anything doesn't make it larger, unless Desmond was talking about the uncompressed size and you were referencing the .ZIP size.

Still, 'dd' is your best bet. Maybe Korg will help further!

[muzines]

I tried the same process (whichi *should* work) with a different Akai disk image and I got the same (non) result - Logic wouldn't recognise the inserted disk, so I'm thinking that whatever code they were using to read the disk natively just isn't working under a VM.

So at this point, I suspect this is the problem, rather than a problem with the disk image as such. (Although I can read the other Akai disk with Daemon Tools, but your image it won't mount saying it's corrupted.)

I can also manage to have the (known good) Akai disk image pseudo-mounted but Kontakt (various versions, from 4.x onwards) won't see it either.

I'm having a futz around to see if I can get something working - if not, I'll break out my old PPC Powerbook from wherever it's hiding and see if I can't get something converted that way...

(It's a good job I converted my old Akai CD-ROMs a loong time ago!)

I haven't yet managed to try the Windows option, as I haven't yet found an old Logic Platinum Windows 5.5.1 installer...