Gary Moore guitar auction

[BJG145]

I just noticed this coming up in December if any fans were looking for a souvenir...

https://www.irishnews.com/magazine/ente ... n-1760664/

https://bid.gardinerhoulgate.co.uk/m/vi ... log/id/148

[Wonks]

Most of the items are covered in this months Guitarist.

Nothing really that special as they are almost all 1990's-2000's items. But the lots' guide prices are very low, as seems to be the way with auctions these days.

[The Bunk]

And Francis Rossi's getting in on the fun as well...

https://guitar.com/news/francis-rossis-tele-auction

No doubt a number of chord-based jokes will (re-)surface...

[adrian_k]

What a mad world - a 1957 Tele would go for what £20k? An ex status quo one expected to get over £100k? Nuts.

[Wonks]

Well, given the rarity of ex-Status Quo guitars with any real usage history behind them, it's bound to go for a reasonable sum. Of course the estimated price may well drop and go down, down, deeper and down.

[The Bunk]

Very good Wonks!

..."Going once, going twice.....etc....going 4,500 times"

[Forum Admin]

Of course the estimated price may well drop and go down, down, deeper and down.

[Music Wolf]

What a mad world - a 1957 Tele would go for what £20k? An ex status quo one expected to get over £100k? Nuts.

I understand what you're proposing but I'm sure that Rossi's is just a 57 body with pretty much everything else having been changed at sometime or another. It's also been re-finished in Ronseal. Still, if somebody wants to donate it to me then I ain't complaining.

[Wonks]

What you're proposing is rather on the wild side of life.

[Sam Spoons]

What a mad world - a 1957 Tele would go for what £20k? An ex status quo one expected to get over £100k? Nuts.

I understand what you're proposing but I'm sure that Rossi's is just a 57 body with pretty much everything else having been changed at sometime or another. It's also been re-finished in Ronseal. Still, if somebody wants to donate it to me then I ain't complaining.

You realise if you did get it it would self combust when you played the fourth chord on it.......

[Dynamic Mike]

Apparently Gary Moore's red ones have been sold, however...

... they've still got the blues

[Sam Spoons]

[2pods]

I could be wrong, but I *think* this is the third auction of his gear.
Maybe just what's left ?

[jaminem]

Gardiner Houlgate's guitar auctions are superb. But its not just guitars - they have pro audio there as well....We were recently treated to Roland Ollazabal's studio stuff, including his PPG wave 2.2 and his EMAX.

I've bought loads of stuff from there - its 20 mins down the road from me.

[BJG145]

But its not just guitars

I noticed a couple of Gary's keyboards are included, like this Polysix. (As Wonks indicated, the estimates are disingenuously low.)

[jaminem]

But its not just guitars

I noticed a couple of Gary's keyboards are included, like this Polysix. (As Wonks indicated, the estimates are disingenuously low.)

I think "disingenuous" is pretty strong....

But I will concede that the Polysix looks like a pretty cheap estimate - they may not know what it is...

You need to bear in mind that you pay a buyers premium of 24% on top so estimates can on the surface appear low but once you factor this is in pricing is a little more in line with what you'd expect, but I've had some astonishingly good buys from this place.

an unused Beyerdynamic M88 for £45 rrp £240, estimated £40-60
A custom shop Yamaha BB2024x for £800 rrp over 2K estimated £800-1200
SWR Super Redhead for £210 (find one for under £500 used!) estimated £250-350

Even then, there's no accounting for what can happen if you get 2 parties interested.
I've seen a box of ordinary strat parts go for over £500 when estimated quite rightly @ £150-200, rough JV squiers estimated @ £400 go for over £600 to online bidders who probably didn't even play it (because I did and it was a dog!)

Its swings and roundabouts, fashions and internet hype that's driving a lot of the prices up, and an almost impossible task for the auction house to get every estimation to meet everyone's expectations...

[FrankF]

Apparently Gary Moore's red ones have been sold, however...

... they've still got the blues

I've heard that some of his guitars are in very poor condition:
allegedly, he left them out in the fields...

[2pods]

Gibson could run their digger over them (Like they did with the Firebird X's), turn them into rubble, and export them to France. Where they would become..........

Parisianne Walkways ...........

I thank you :bouncy: :headbang:

[Agharta]

I noticed a couple of Gary's keyboards are included, like this Polysix. (As Wonks indicated, the estimates are disingenuously low.)

Reserve prices matter for obvious reasons but are estimated prices of any importance at all!

[Wonks]

They should be if the integrity of the auction house means anything. At least they should match typical used values from sites like Reverb as the lowest estimated value, and not try to indicate that you'll get both a bargain and a piece of Gary Moore's kit if you put in a bid at the top of the guide price.

[Agharta]

They should be if the integrity of the auction house means anything. At least they should match typical used values from sites like Reverb as the lowest estimated value, and not try to indicate that you'll get both a bargain and a piece of Gary Moore's kit if you put in a bid at the top of the guide price.

I've never been to an auction but I'm well aware how often items that were owned by famous people often go for way above estimated prices.
If I was interested I would want to know about reserve pricing as that does have a real impact on whether potential bargains are available.
Are auction houses compelled to list reserve prices?
I agree though that low estimated prices might impact the auction house but they have no bearing on the buyer ultimately unless they are naive.

[Wonks]

True, but you can waste quite a few peoples time if they go and view the items with an intent to buy at around the guide price, or spend time putting internet bids in, and then the item goes for 10x -20x the suggested price. The DG guitar auction showed that even the most mundane items belonging to a guitar hero can go for silly money.

[Sam Spoons]

To be fair to the auctioneers it's pretty much impossible to value those celebrity items.

[Agharta]

Naive and uninformed people waste their time on many things.
An auction by definition has no upper limit so anything can happen.
We live in the time of Fake News and this auction house seems to be embracing that as part of its business strategy!
I wonder if there are listed reserve prices as those have real meaning.

[Wonks]

Reserve prices aren't listed at auctions as it discourages a lot of starting bids.