Yoshimi Pi
Re: Yoshimi Pi
For anyone wanting to upgrade their YP to V1.7.2, the following is what you need to do.
In the Apps directory, double click on the NetControl Icon, and enable the network.
Shutdown and restart the unit (obviously with a network lead plugged in).
Stop Yoshimi itself, if you have it set to autorun.
Click on the Terminal Icon, and wait for the prompt to appear.
Type in the following line:
cd /home/pi/Software/yoshimi/build
The prompt will change to reflect this.
Type in the following:
git pull
You'll see a lot of text running past. When it stops type:
make
There will be a lot more text. Only if there are no errors reported, type:
sudo make install
When this has finished, go back to the NetControl app, and disable the network again.
Shut the unit down and restart it.
Enjoy your shiny new Yoshi Pi
In the Apps directory, double click on the NetControl Icon, and enable the network.
Shutdown and restart the unit (obviously with a network lead plugged in).
Stop Yoshimi itself, if you have it set to autorun.
Click on the Terminal Icon, and wait for the prompt to appear.
Type in the following line:
cd /home/pi/Software/yoshimi/build
The prompt will change to reflect this.
Type in the following:
git pull
You'll see a lot of text running past. When it stops type:
make
There will be a lot more text. Only if there are no errors reported, type:
sudo make install
When this has finished, go back to the NetControl app, and disable the network again.
Shut the unit down and restart it.
Enjoy your shiny new Yoshi Pi
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Re: Yoshimi Pi
A shout out to our happy owners 
One of Yoshimi's little band of helpers has started developing a Yoshimi Pi website, so I'd be very grateful for any comments, short reviews and/or photos.
These would of course be acknowledged in whatever way you prefer.
If anyone can also produce a video that would be fantastic. I've a feeling the Internet Archive can host videos these days, and if so, I'd prefer to post these there (or make downloadable links) Youtube is getting really aggressive with adds and other intrusions
Also, a reminder.
There is still YP003 available at the original price of £260. It will be updated with the latest Yoshimi improvements too.
One of Yoshimi's little band of helpers has started developing a Yoshimi Pi website, so I'd be very grateful for any comments, short reviews and/or photos.
These would of course be acknowledged in whatever way you prefer.
If anyone can also produce a video that would be fantastic. I've a feeling the Internet Archive can host videos these days, and if so, I'd prefer to post these there (or make downloadable links) Youtube is getting really aggressive with adds and other intrusions
Also, a reminder.
There is still YP003 available at the original price of £260. It will be updated with the latest Yoshimi improvements too.
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Re: Yoshimi Pi
Excellent news Will! 
Looking forward to viewing the website when it's up and running, and I daresay I can provide some feedback and maybe even a tiny bit of user content in due course.
Martin
Looking forward to viewing the website when it's up and running, and I daresay I can provide some feedback and maybe even a tiny bit of user content in due course.
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Re: Yoshimi Pi
Folderol wrote:Just an update.
Website could be up by Monday, but could still do with photos and or reviews.
Ummm...
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Provisional Website
Withe the help of people here, and some of Yoshimi's little band of helpers we now have a temporary hidden site here.
There are a couple of working links, but for fairly obvious reasons it can't go public yet.
There are a couple of working links, but for fairly obvious reasons it can't go public yet.
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Re: Yoshimi Pi
Site is looking nice, clean and simple - very modern layout with the full-width images and simple scroll.
I know nowt about the synth so I can't comment on that but I have taken the liberty of suggesting a couple of things from a quick proof-read:
- Typo on the start of the third paragraph though, extra 'is' in the first few words.
- Para 4, sentence two, would probably read better as "Everything is powered by a single standard IEC power cable so there's no risk of losing the interconnect leads.
- Para 5, last sentence, the opening phrase could be simplified to 'A single button switches the unit off and on, and...' etc.
- Para 7, you say it can be run as a single sound source, that implies (to me) an 'or' something else option? Is that what's covered in the next paragraph? If so i'd probably start that with 'Or you can...' etc.
Other things that might be nice to know:
- Portability is obviously a key factor here, so including dimensions of the box and screen would be good.
- It ships with 1.7.2 or later, is it possible for the user to update this when new versions are released?
- If I place an order and you're currently out of stock, how long might I be waiting to for the next batch?
Might be worth adding a picture in there somewhere with a keyboard (piano rather than computer) just to make it completely obvious that this is a musical instrument - for anyone who doesn't know what Yoshimi is, lands on the page and just scans quickly down. At the moment you could look at those pictures and assume it's actually a DAW-in-a-box* or something like that.
Feel free to ignore some, all or none of the above at your personal pleasure.
* Your next project?
I know nowt about the synth so I can't comment on that but I have taken the liberty of suggesting a couple of things from a quick proof-read:
- Typo on the start of the third paragraph though, extra 'is' in the first few words.
- Para 4, sentence two, would probably read better as "Everything is powered by a single standard IEC power cable so there's no risk of losing the interconnect leads.
- Para 5, last sentence, the opening phrase could be simplified to 'A single button switches the unit off and on, and...' etc.
- Para 7, you say it can be run as a single sound source, that implies (to me) an 'or' something else option? Is that what's covered in the next paragraph? If so i'd probably start that with 'Or you can...' etc.
Other things that might be nice to know:
- Portability is obviously a key factor here, so including dimensions of the box and screen would be good.
- It ships with 1.7.2 or later, is it possible for the user to update this when new versions are released?
- If I place an order and you're currently out of stock, how long might I be waiting to for the next batch?
Might be worth adding a picture in there somewhere with a keyboard (piano rather than computer) just to make it completely obvious that this is a musical instrument - for anyone who doesn't know what Yoshimi is, lands on the page and just scans quickly down. At the moment you could look at those pictures and assume it's actually a DAW-in-a-box* or something like that.
Feel free to ignore some, all or none of the above at your personal pleasure.
* Your next project?
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Re: Yoshimi Pi
Thanks Drew.
Points noted, and a revision in place
P.S.
With some of the extra software bits I've been adding to the one I've got half built it's not far off a DAW
Points noted, and a revision in place
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With some of the extra software bits I've been adding to the one I've got half built it's not far off a DAW
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Re: Yoshimi Pi
Sent you a PM Will, and I'll follow up tomorrow!
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Re: Yoshimi Pi
Well done Will - looking good!
I'm about to visit Mitt to hopefully sort out his PC audio problems, and I'll probably lose my Talk Talk internet connection some time tomorrow until Tuesday, so here are a few quick comments as they occur to me.
In the specifications, it might be more informative to add:
2 USB 3.0 ports (typically used to plug in computer keyboard & USB MIDI if required)
2 USB 2.0 ports (for inbuilt audio & computer mouse if required)
12V DC out @2A (powers Yoshimi Pi itself, plus any external gear connected to USB ports)
Need to dash now, and will hopefully be able to provide more detail when I return home, but hope this helps!
Martin
I'm about to visit Mitt to hopefully sort out his PC audio problems, and I'll probably lose my Talk Talk internet connection some time tomorrow until Tuesday, so here are a few quick comments as they occur to me.
In the specifications, it might be more informative to add:
2 USB 3.0 ports (typically used to plug in computer keyboard & USB MIDI if required)
2 USB 2.0 ports (for inbuilt audio & computer mouse if required)
12V DC out @2A (powers Yoshimi Pi itself, plus any external gear connected to USB ports)
Need to dash now, and will hopefully be able to provide more detail when I return home, but hope this helps!
Martin
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Re: Yoshimi Pi
Eddy has provided a fantastic review - now added to the site here.
Ideally there two others I would like to ask for (even if just a brief single paragraph) . Firstly from someone relatively unfamiliar with synthesisers, and secondly someone into sound design who can compare and contrast the Yoshimi Pi with other synths from that viewpoint.
Ideally there two others I would like to ask for (even if just a brief single paragraph) . Firstly from someone relatively unfamiliar with synthesisers, and secondly someone into sound design who can compare and contrast the Yoshimi Pi with other synths from that viewpoint.
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Re: Yoshimi Pi
For the intrepid people, there is now Yoshimi version 1.7.3 available.
I've marked this as a maintenance release. It has no new features, but several bugfixes, and underlying code cleanups that should marginally improve performance.
I recommend updating fairly soon, as there are some (nice) changes coming in a few weeks time.
P.S.
Just a reminder that YP003 is still available, and I have enough bits knocking around for YP008 and possibly YP009
I've marked this as a maintenance release. It has no new features, but several bugfixes, and underlying code cleanups that should marginally improve performance.
I recommend updating fairly soon, as there are some (nice) changes coming in a few weeks time.
P.S.
Just a reminder that YP003 is still available, and I have enough bits knocking around for YP008 and possibly YP009
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Re: Yoshimi Pi
Just come across some odd behaviour from half-built Pi 008.
If left for several days unused, then the next time it is started it gets to the desktop then immediately shuts down. Wait a few seconds then try again and it's fine. I didn't seen this with any of the others, so it suggests a dodgy timing cap. However, has anyone else had this happen?
If so I may need to revise the design (hope not).
If left for several days unused, then the next time it is started it gets to the desktop then immediately shuts down. Wait a few seconds then try again and it's fine. I didn't seen this with any of the others, so it suggests a dodgy timing cap. However, has anyone else had this happen?
If so I may need to revise the design (hope not).
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Re: Yoshimi Pi
Definitely not seen that behaviour with mine Will. As with most of my studio gear there are periods of time when they don't get used and they've never had a problem booting reliably (and staying there) at any point!
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Re: Yoshimi Pi
+1 with Eddy - mine boots up perfectly every time (just tried it yet again, and no probs)
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Re: Yoshimi Pi
Thanks folks. That's most reassuring.
I'll leave it for now (doing 'other' things), but I'll sort it later.
I'll leave it for now (doing 'other' things), but I'll sort it later.
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Re: Yoshimi Pi
Hi Will,
Hope you and yours are all well and sane!
Did you get my email a from a couple of days ago? I am super interested in getting hold of a YP....
Stephen
Hope you and yours are all well and sane!
Did you get my email a from a couple of days ago? I am super interested in getting hold of a YP....
Stephen
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Re: Yoshimi Pi
mutant0407 wrote:Hi Will,
Hope you and yours are all well and sane!
Did you get my email a from a couple of days ago? I am super interested in getting hold of a YP....
Stephen
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Re: Yoshimi Pi
Just had a very interesting result 
For a while I've been experimenting off-and-on with the part build yp008, and various OS images. I've now got it running with the Rosegarden sequencer on board. This is far from lightweight software! Nevertheless I was able to run a moderately complex 10 part project with no detectable Xruns. This was also with the little screen at it maximum resolution of 1920x1080
The proof:

For a while I've been experimenting off-and-on with the part build yp008, and various OS images. I've now got it running with the Rosegarden sequencer on board. This is far from lightweight software! Nevertheless I was able to run a moderately complex 10 part project with no detectable Xruns. This was also with the little screen at it maximum resolution of 1920x1080
The proof:

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Re: Yoshimi Pi
That IS impressive Will.
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DD image?! 
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I've got some clean-ups to do, but I should be able to put an image up somewhere soon-ish.
It will now auto-connect to the 'net but only if the line is active at startup (or reboot). I still haven't been able to get it to auto-mount USB sticks though
P.S.
I discovered what was causing the occasional startup failure. I'd made a mistake with some of the startup software, that was slowing down a critical part of the sequence, such that the initial holdup circuit timed out before the 'on' lock was set.
It will now auto-connect to the 'net but only if the line is active at startup (or reboot). I still haven't been able to get it to auto-mount USB sticks though
P.S.
I discovered what was causing the occasional startup failure. I'd made a mistake with some of the startup software, that was slowing down a critical part of the sequence, such that the initial holdup circuit timed out before the 'on' lock was set.
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Re: Yoshimi Pi
Ho-Hum I've hit a speedbump 
While I always understood that not all SD cards of a given size are actually equal, it hadn't occurred to me that this was also true of different cards from the same manufacturer and model. It seems that by pure chance the one I used to generate the image file was at the top of the size range, and the other two that I've got are not big enough to take the transfer. Just to complete my misery, the go-to utility for shrinking Raspberry Pi images seems to corrupt this one. Oh, and I can no longer find the original devuan image on-line that I started with.
The (sort of) good news is the image works perfectly on a 32G card, and this card works exactly as it should do in yp003.
Anyway, until and unless I can find a way to reliably shrink the image, I can't risk putting this out as a re-flash option
P.S.
With hindsight, I should have used an 8G card for development - it would be more than big enough and would ensure it could be copied to working ones.
While I always understood that not all SD cards of a given size are actually equal, it hadn't occurred to me that this was also true of different cards from the same manufacturer and model. It seems that by pure chance the one I used to generate the image file was at the top of the size range, and the other two that I've got are not big enough to take the transfer. Just to complete my misery, the go-to utility for shrinking Raspberry Pi images seems to corrupt this one. Oh, and I can no longer find the original devuan image on-line that I started with.
The (sort of) good news is the image works perfectly on a 32G card, and this card works exactly as it should do in yp003.
Anyway, until and unless I can find a way to reliably shrink the image, I can't risk putting this out as a re-flash option
P.S.
With hindsight, I should have used an 8G card for development - it would be more than big enough and would ensure it could be copied to working ones.
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