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My 2019 MBP is currently running my entire setup, which includes three monitors, X32 rack, xTouch, XTouch Extender, Digiface USB, Apogee Quartet and running Steinberg Nuendo 11, and Steinberg Wavelab Pro 10, and all under Catalina, which now works the way it should have from the start.

The laptop is fastened to a Roland Handsonic stand (I wasn't using it) and slung underneath it with long cable ties, are three thunderbolt hubs and a rats nest of cable connections to them.

There is no way to avoid the rats nest because of the very short USBC cables they come hardwired to. But hey! it all works!

Purveyors of hubs should please make their cables at least 1m long to give the users a chance of neat efficient cable runs.

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"Purveyors of hubs should please make their cables at least 1m long to give the users a chance of neat efficient cable runs."

You can buy both 3.0 and 2.0 USB passive extension cables from about 300mm to 'infinity'.
I have shedloads.

Supplied fixed* cables are always 'wrong'. They can't please all...

*I would like to see ALL devices, especially power supplies fitted with mains in AND DC power out sockets. THE most common failure mode for such supplies is the cable at one end or other and you cannot buy replacement connectors for most laptops AFAIK.

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Photo would be great?
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Forum Admin wrote:Photo would be great?

?? Surely everyone here has seen such things?

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Would you like a photo of the rats nest? or did you mean the passive extensions? I will check out those locally (lock down restrictions permitting) or try Lazada. Either way it's good news.
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I actually was referring to a shot of the studio. :-) I like seeing people's studios.
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ef37a wrote:
Forum Admin wrote:Photo would be great?

?? Surely everyone here has seen such things?

Dave.

Actually I haven't. It would have to have a female and a male end. (obviously) The only things I've seen like that are converters from usb a to c. The added difficulty here is places don't stock unusual stuff, I'd have to go to Bangkok. Difficult in the present climate.

If they exist here, Lazada will have them Now to figure out what to call them in the search.
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Lazada is full of them. Thanks Dave!
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Forum Admin wrote:I actually was referring to a shot of the studio. :-) I like seeing people's studios.

I'd be delighted to show a pic, but I just tried and the system renames the URL into something unintelligable. Can you tell me which pic hosting site is accepted? :) Cheers
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https://www.amazon.co.uk/AmazonBasics-M ... B00NH11R3I

You can get them cheaper but that one looks well made and has the bling!
Can you order stuff from Amazon?

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ef37a wrote:https://www.amazon.co.uk/AmazonBasics-M ... B00NH11R3I

You can get them cheaper but that one looks well made and has the bling!
Can you order stuff from Amazon?

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I can, but Lazada delivers local here and I have an account. There are lots on Lazada. I really appreciate that Dave, I can't believe I didn't realise there would be extenders. Well actually I can, - sometimes I'm a prize Klutz.
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Howdy Doody Time wrote:I'd be delighted to show a pic, but I just tried and the system renames the URL into something unintelligible. Can you tell me which pic hosting site is accepted? :) Cheers

I believe lots of members use imgur for hosting their images, then use the BBcode IMG button and paste in the URL between the tags in your Forum post.

More info: https://imgur.com - it is free still, but they encourage you to pay and upgrade. Try it? Members might come along and suggest better image hosting free services...
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Howdy Doody Time wrote:
ef37a wrote:https://www.amazon.co.uk/AmazonBasics-M ... B00NH11R3I

You can get them cheaper but that one looks well made and has the bling!
Can you order stuff from Amazon?

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I can, but Lazada delivers local here and I have an account. There are lots on Lazada. I really appreciate that Dave, I can't believe I didn't realise there would be extenders. Well actually I can, - sometimes I'm a prize Klutz.

You are very welcome 'dude'! Don't go mad mind. The absolute maximum for total usb cables is 5mtrs but certain things can get sniffy at anything over 3mtrs, usually audio interfaces. Things like keyboards and mice seem to work over even 10mtrs but much depends on the kit and the quality of the cables.

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Forum Admin wrote:
Howdy Doody Time wrote:I'd be delighted to show a pic, but I just tried and the system renames the URL into something unintelligible. Can you tell me which pic hosting site is accepted? :) Cheers

I believe lots of members use imgur for hosting their images, then use the BBcode IMG button and paste in the URL between the tags in your Forum post.

More info: https://imgur.com - it is free still, but they encourage you to pay and upgrade. Try it? Members might come along and suggest better image hosting free services...

https://imgur.com/a/Nb3BjU6

https://imgur.com/a/1ZrA4c2
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ef37a wrote:
Howdy Doody Time wrote:
ef37a wrote:https://www.amazon.co.uk/AmazonBasics-M ... B00NH11R3I

You can get them cheaper but that one looks well made and has the bling!
Can you order stuff from Amazon?

Dave.

I can, but Lazada delivers local here and I have an account. There are lots on Lazada. I really appreciate that Dave, I can't believe I didn't realise there would be extenders. Well actually I can, - sometimes I'm a prize Klutz.

You are very welcome 'dude'! Don't go mad mind. The absolute maximum for total usb cables is 5mtrs but certain things can get sniffy at anything over 3mtrs, usually audio interfaces. Things like keyboards and mice seem to work over even 10mtrs but much depends on the kit and the quality of the cables.

Dave.

Gotcha, but 1m is more than enough.Good to know though, I did wonder. Thanks again!
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ef37a wrote:"Purveyors of hubs should please make their cables at least 1m long to give the users a chance of neat efficient cable runs."

You can buy both 3.0 and 2.0 USB passive extension cables from about 300mm to 'infinity'.
I have shedloads.

Supplied fixed* cables are always 'wrong'. They can't please all...

*I would like to see ALL devices, especially power supplies fitted with mains in AND DC power out sockets. THE most common failure mode for such supplies is the cable at one end or other and you cannot buy replacement connectors for most laptops AFAIK.

Dave.

The USB 2.0 standard specifies a maximum cable length of 5 metres. For USB 3 the practical limit for reliable operation appears to be 3 metres.
Longer cables may work, but you take your chances.

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Thanks for sharing. Nice setup - shame the Forum IMG code isn't allowing Imgur images to be shown inline... they must have changed their policy these past years.
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Forum Admin wrote:Thanks for sharing. Nice setup - shame the Forum IMG code isn't allowing Imgur images to be shown inline... they must have changed their policy these past years.

Nope - if you link to the imgur "page" showing the image (which is what Howdy did here), that's a different thing to just linking directly to the image in img tags.

imgur still works fine for this (and is how I host my images here).

Howdy's images:

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So, right-clicking on the Imgur image when on that site and copying the image address will give you this:

https://i.imgur.com/34apyq0.jpeg

Then use the Forum post's Img button and paste it in-between those tags, and you'll see the image just as desmond states. Ta!
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I wrote it up in a bit more detail here and Mike Stranks has a related video of the process (using his account on Imgur) here:thumbup:
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Eddy Deegan wrote:I wrote it up in a bit more detail here and Mike Stranks has a related video of the process (using his account on Imgur) here:thumbup:

Thanks Eddy. Had forgotten about those useful guides.
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Eddy Deegan wrote:I wrote it up in a bit more detail here and Mike Stranks has a related video of the process (using his account on Imgur) here:thumbup:

Imgur hosts videos? I tried a while ago and it didn't work, what may I have done wrong?

WRT imgur links I use the 'direct link' pasted between the forum generated [img] tabs.
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Forum Admin wrote:
Eddy Deegan wrote:I wrote it up in a bit more detail here and Mike Stranks has a related video of the process (using his account on Imgur) here:thumbup:

Thanks Eddy. Had forgotten about those useful guides.

Thanks, mystery solved! :)
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Wow, how many faders do you have in that room?! :shocked:
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Kwackman wrote:Wow, how many faders do you have in that room?! :shocked:

I set it up so I could mix 48 tracks in a session. So two iZ Radar 24's synced together feeding a Midas Verona. But then I got an x32 rack (no faders) which benefited from an xTouch. I mistakenly bought an xtouch extender which can't seem to work with anything but I'm still trying. So 56 faders on the Midas, 17 more between the x-s and 5 more on the SSL Six. SO 78 hardware faders all told.

As it turns out I rarely use the Radars and Verona setup. The X32 Rack and X-touch is fine for what I doodle about with.

For me this is only a hobby. I never did make any money from it, and never will. I have made some really good recordings though, including a couple of albums worth of music recorded on the most remote island in the world - Kiritimati Island. I recorded lots of local singers, with handed down songs some exceptional, and a whole albums worth of original stuff by an American tourist passing through. I brought with me a couple of digital mics and a Russian ribbon (which gave fabulous results on local vocals) two Neve channels and two SSL channels, an Apogee 8 and a MacBook Pro. I had to teach a fab local singer some Beatles songs (Nobody had heard of the Beatles) and I got him to sing Oh Darling, to a karaoke track, with the chorus in the Kiribati language) It sounded fab! :)
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