What is metadata?
What is metadata?
Can someone explain what metadata is? Is it embedded into music files with info about copyright ownership etc?
I have watched a seminar where a music supervisor said many composers don't know what metadata is. She didn't explain what it is just that she doesn't have time to educate composers on it when they send her their music.
I have watched a seminar where a music supervisor said many composers don't know what metadata is. She didn't explain what it is just that she doesn't have time to educate composers on it when they send her their music.
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Re: What is metadata?
Essentially it's just a term meaning information about content, usually embedded (as in a digital file). It can contain a variety of information, depending on the media and requirements (and sometimes on the diligence of those completing it!). So title, artist, composer etc. might be typical fields along with any technical information such as sample rate etc.
An analogy I used to use was to compare it to the label on a vinyl record.
An analogy I used to use was to compare it to the label on a vinyl record.
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Re: What is metadata?
Metadata is information contained in the background of a computer file that does not form part of the publication. E.G. In Microsoft Office, it is the stuff you see on the File page where it tells you who the author was, when it was created, who modified it last etc is all metadata. Likewise in a music file, you can append similar data like artist name, track name, album name, genre etc.
There are a bunch of default fields, depending on the file type, but with the correct editor, you can add your own.
There are a bunch of default fields, depending on the file type, but with the correct editor, you can add your own.
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Re: What is metadata?
pk.roberts wrote:Essentially it's just a term meaning information about content, usually embedded (as in a digital file). It can contain a variety of information, depending on the media and requirements (and sometimes on the diligence of those completing it!). So title, artist, composer etc. might be typical fields along with any technical information such as sample rate etc.
An analogy I used to use was to compare it to the label on a vinyl record.
How is the metadata added to the file? I have noticed on my mac I can see the sample rate etc if I press CMD+I, can additional information be added? In the context of music publishing what additional information should be added and how can it be added? It will be useful to add contact details and performer details, what else should be added?
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Re: What is metadata?
Moroccomoose wrote:Metadata is information contained in the background of a computer file that does not form part of the publication. E.G. In Microsoft Office, it is the stuff you see on the File page where it tells you who the author was, when it was created, who modified it last etc is all metadata. Likewise in a music file, you can append similar data like artist name, track name, album name, genre etc.
There are a bunch of default fields, depending on the file type, but with the correct editor, you can add your own.
What software available for macOS can do this, and can it do it on a batch of files?
Thanks
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Re: What is metadata?
Marco Mastrocola wrote: What software available for macOS can do this, and can it do it on a batch of files?
Thanks
I use kid3 which is available across all platforms. I'm happy with it.
https://kid3.kde.org
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Re: What is metadata?
A quick Google got me here
https://www.nightbirdsevolve.com/meta/
I'm sure there would be alternatives...if you use iTunes, you may be able to do it in there.
Sadly, I bow out here as I am not a mac user!
Stu
https://www.nightbirdsevolve.com/meta/
I'm sure there would be alternatives...if you use iTunes, you may be able to do it in there.
Sadly, I bow out here as I am not a mac user!
Stu
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Re: What is metadata?
rockydennis wrote:Marco Mastrocola wrote: What software available for macOS can do this, and can it do it on a batch of files?
Thanks
I use kid3 which is available across all platforms. I'm happy with it.
https://kid3.kde.org
Thanks for this. Can it add metadata on multiple files at the same time?
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Re: What is metadata?
Moroccomoose wrote:A quick Google got me here
https://www.nightbirdsevolve.com/meta/
I'm sure there would be alternatives...if you use iTunes, you may be able to do it in there.
Sadly, I bow out here as I am not a mac user!
Stu
Thanks Stu.
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Re: What is metadata?
Marco Mastrocola wrote:rockydennis wrote: I use kid3 which is available across all platforms. I'm happy with it.
https://kid3.kde.org
Thanks for this. Can it add metadata on multiple files at the same time?
If you read the page linked above, it states that it can ...
"Edit tags of multiple files, e.g. the artist, album, year and genre of all files of an album typically have the same values and can be set together"
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Re: What is metadata?
Marco Mastrocola wrote: Thanks for this. Can it add metadata on multiple files at the same time?
Yes. I use it for Mac, and I find it very intuitive to use. And I forgot to mention - it's free.
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Re: What is metadata?
Metadata is data about data.
Probably also a love letter from the past.
Probably also a love letter from the past.
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Re: What is metadata?
Metadata is data about data.
Probably also a love letter from the past.
This thread is also metametadata.
Probably also a love letter from the past.
This thread is also metametadata.
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Re: What is metadata?
I think this thread is metadata data 
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Re: What is metadata?
I learned about metadata when working on devising metametamodels for pollution licencing ...
Data about data is the spot-on definition. For entering metadata on multiple files I use Metadatics, which is available from the App Store. It works very well once you get used to its quirks and supports entry of stuff like ISRC codes.
CC
Data about data is the spot-on definition. For entering metadata on multiple files I use Metadatics, which is available from the App Store. It works very well once you get used to its quirks and supports entry of stuff like ISRC codes.
CC
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Re: What is metadata?
PreSonus Studio One DAW lets you add metadata at various points - this SOS article gives you some background:
https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/meta-work
iTunes lets you enter Artist, Genre, Copyright info etc. But on *any* Mac file you can press Cmd-I (Get Info) and enter text into the Comment box, and save.
https://www.soundonsound.com/techniques/meta-work
iTunes lets you enter Artist, Genre, Copyright info etc. But on *any* Mac file you can press Cmd-I (Get Info) and enter text into the Comment box, and save.
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Re: What is metadata?
Generic 'What Is Metadata?' overview YouTube video here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WCuOjXu6Ko
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Re: What is metadata?
Let’s go meta! 
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Re: What is metadata?
Data about data is a loose definition that has been around at least from the early 1980s, I expect that only later was there any assumption that metadata would be embedded with the data in some container (file).
Re: What is metadata?
Clearly the confusion around metadata (data about data) suggests we need to implement meta-metadata (data about the data about the data) to help clear this up... 

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Re: What is metadata?
We're approaching 'Buffalo' territory here...
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desmond wrote:Clearly the confusion around metadata (data about data) suggests we need to implement meta-metadata (data about the data about the data) to help clear this up...
Let's introduce recursion and we're done with it! For more information about metadata, I suggest to read the informative SOS forum thread here
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