How might one go about learning about synths, without actually buying a synth?

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Re: How might one go about learning about synths, without actually buying a synth?

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Dolmetscher007 wrote:I was born in 1978, so I cut my teeth on synth heavy stuff like the Cure, Depeche Mode, New Order, and the like. However, by the time I got old enough to start learning to play an instrument, synths were no longer the instrument du jour..........

.......I absolutely do not have the budget to start combing Reverb and ebay for old synths. So... can anyone on here give me a nudge in the right direction as to how I can up my synth vocabulary, so that I can start playing around with the software synths with some level of knowledge of what I am doing?.......

Thanks guys!

You are going to need a keyboard of some kind so why not just buy an inexpensive hardware synth of some kind, names like Akai, Behringer, Novation, Korg and Arturia spring to mind but there are many others.

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Re: How might one go about learning about synths, without actually buying a synth?

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The smart money is on getting a really old Casio keyboard, or a Yamaha PSS, put it through a few expensive boutique pedals, and your an instant hipster.
No, but seriously, it’s a cheap way in, and you can use those throw away Behringer pedals too.
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Re: How might one go about learning about synths, without actually buying a synth?

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For a cheap interesting keyboard I'd agree Arpy but the OP want's to learn about synths and those are basically preset only.
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Re: How might one go about learning about synths, without actually buying a synth?

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Sam Spoons wrote:For a cheap interesting keyboard I'd agree Arpy but the OP want's to learn about synths and those are basically preset only.

Well, I suggest he goes and buys one then......there’s no substitute for hands on experience.

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Re: How might one go about learning about synths, without actually buying a synth?

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MOF wrote:
I understand, but it's a big difference between a virtual synth and having the real thing with knobs and buttons in front of you. It doesn't have to cost the earth - Behringer Model D, Pro-One, or Neutron, for instance?

He said he doesn’t intend to buy a real one.

And I say 'think again'. Having a real one to play with he will learn more in 20 minutes than with a plug-in.

Or simply borrow one - everyone knows someone with a synth, right? Right?... Guys? :smirk:;)
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Re: How might one go about learning about synths, without actually buying a synth?

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Arpangel wrote:
Sam Spoons wrote:For a cheap interesting keyboard I'd agree Arpy but the OP want's to learn about synths and those are basically preset only.

Well, I suggest he goes and buys one then......there’s no substitute for hands on experience.

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Re: How might one go about learning about synths, without actually buying a synth?

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Sam Spoons wrote:
Arpangel wrote:
Sam Spoons wrote:For a cheap interesting keyboard I'd agree Arpy but the OP want's to learn about synths and those are basically preset only.

Well, I suggest he goes and buys one then......there’s no substitute for hands on experience.

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You do alright mate....

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Well, it’s a bit like trying to learn about driving a car, without actually buying one.
You could, but what’s the point?
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Re: How might one go about learning about synths, without actually buying a synth?

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You can learn a lot about synthesis with free/available software synths, and I advise you to do so.

If you get the bug, it may well lead you to an informed purchase of a hardware synth, but I wouldn't spend a lot of money on something you might not even get along with.

There's plenty of resources online to help you get started, and what you have at your disposal for very little investment these days is remarkable.
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Re: How might one go about learning about synths, without actually buying a synth?

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Agreed Desmond, absolutely remarkable.

Normally I'm not one to shy away from advising that someone spend a bit more cash to get to a certain minimum acceptable quality but in this case, for the purposes of the OP, that condition can be met in software for peanuts or gratis.

Hands-on fun can be stepped up in increments, from a MIDI controller through some cheap hardware knobby synths all the way to financial ruin . . . at a later date.

Mind you, I can also see the POV where some of you might have a concern that the software-first approach might actually deter a neophyte as the lack of hands-on (most especially the ability to grab more than one control at a time, and rapidly adjust stuff all over the machine) just isn't as immediate or plain good old-fasioned fun.

And there's merit to that line of thought too.

But the options have been presented. The rest is Support Group! :P
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Re: How might one go about learning about synths, without actually buying a synth?

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I'm very much a guitar player with limited (any keyboard player worth is salt would say 'no') keyboard skills but I definitely find a physical keyboard with knobs on it (ok, in my case, I have a Berry Model D and an Akai Miniak* rather than the original 'Mogue' Model D I learned the basics on nearly 50 years ago) much easier to get to grips with. I've tried with software, I really have, but I guess I'm too 'old skule' (or whatever the current phrase is, FWIW my eldest was born in 1978 too) to cope... Us guitarists are a simple breed, we do like knobs to wiggle and things to press, pluck, stomp or hit**. An analogue, keyboard, monosynth is the simplest, most understandable, form of synth. You press a key and twiddle some knobs and the noise comes out, just like a souped up stomp box.

* TBF I have always had keyboard aspirations, I sold them in my 20's and have owned many different ones during the intervening period but have never got much beyond the 'Three Blind Mice" phase of learning to play. I currently own the aforementioned Berry Model D and Miniak, a Roland Juno-D and a Roland A-90EX with the piano board installed. All I need to do now is learn to play the bl00dy things :headbang:

** yes even a cowbell under extreme pressure...
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