New Macs

[BigRedX]

Is there an "Apple Event" coming up any time soon.

The iMac Pro appears to be in short supply and limited options, so I wonder if it is about to be replaced?

[muzines]

Is there an "Apple Event" coming up any time soon.

Yes, end of March. Don't get excited, it's going to be for stuff like iPads, Airpods, Airtags etc, according to rumours.

The iMac Pro appears to be in short supply and limited options, so I wonder if it is about to be replaced?

The iMac Pro is history, it will not be replaced.

Of course, the iMacs, and the 16" Macbook Pros are due to be replaced for Mx versions, likely in June.

[CS70]

No, the cheap Chinese knock offs are very clearly obviously counterfeited. Even down to the packaging, and the marketing "Genuine Apple-branded cable!" etc.

Apologies, my misunderstanding. You meant really counterfeited in a literal sense, not just lookalike as shape. These aren't the ones I am speaking of - the ones I buy at high street shops are a little cheaper but clearly branded with their own brand and packaging.

They last exactly as long the real Apple ones, but occasionally give the "not supported" message..

[muzines]

You meant really counterfeited in a literal sense, not just lookalike as shape. These aren't the ones I am speaking of - the ones I buy at high street shops are a little cheaper but clearly branded with their own brand and packaging.

Yep, I listed three cable types, if that wasn't clear - genuine Apple ones, branded third-party ones available to buy in UK shops, and the cheap knock-offs you get on ebay etc.

They last exactly as long the real Apple ones, but occasionally give the "not supported" message..

Not in my experience. My genuine ones last typically for the lifetime of the cable (ie, up to the time the cable starts to physically fail), whereas a range of third-party ones bought in shops (and not especially cheap either) tended to last anywhere from three to 12 months, on average based on my sample size over the last 8 or so years - multiple Apple ones, multiple cheap ebay ones (cheap, worth a try) and multiple ones of various good third-party brands bought in shops, probably a good 6+ of each, plus other family and friends experiences added in there.

I've never had a "not supported" issue with genuine cables, but definitely do get them with branded third-parties over the lifespan mentioned above - some of which causing cables in otherwise perfectly good condition to be discarded because they no longer work, and/or charge Apple devices.

I absolutely have observed and experienced repeatable way improved lifetimes with genuine cables over any other solution, meaning that I favour that approach where possible. Ymmv of course, I'm just mentioning my experiences with them.

[ConcertinaChap]

The iMac Pro appears to be in short supply and limited options, so I wonder if it is about to be replaced?

The iMac Pro is history, it will not be replaced.

That's my understanding but as an iMac Pro owner it doesn't bother me. This machine will see me well into the Apple silicon era; indeed at my age it might be my last ever computer.

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[muzines]

That's my understanding but as an iMac Pro owner it doesn't bother me. This machine will see me well into the Apple silicon era; indeed at my age it might be my last ever computer.

Indeed - it doesn't stop it from being a great machine!

[CS70]

They last exactly as long the real Apple ones, but occasionally give the "not supported" message..

Not in my experience.

Eh well, we have different experiences.

My Apple cables - the ones the come with the devices and some I bought later on, ended up with the rubber peeling at the connector edge within about 6 moths. The copy ones last about as much - usually they stop working rather than peeling, but because then ones I get tend not to have rubber but textile. Which is why now I buy only copies. I go thru about 4 cables a year.

Admittedly having several children in the house swapping cables all the time may have something to do with that.

I wouldn't dream of buy anything counterfeit (dont see the point) which is why I misread you.

[BigRedX]

My experience of Apple vs non-Apple cables has been much the same a Demond's. It is most noticeable with the Lightning/USB cables, to the point where now I won't even consider using anything but genuine Apple ones.

However for the more "chunky" cables like FW and USB A-B the ones that come with a device from a reputable brand are generally robust enough.

[Agharta]

Amazon UK have some decent discounts on the M1 Minis, starting at £551:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08N5NT8VF? ... A1OLE&th=1

[Guest]

Interesting, I guess people aren't buying these 8GB ones.

[Sam Spoons]

Two shiny new MacBooks arrived at around 10:45 this morning, both have gone through the setup process without a hitch. Mrs S thinks her Rose Gold MacBook Air is "very pretty"

I think the screen, keyboard and touch pad are excellent, boot up times are not much different to my SSD equipped 2012 MBP but overall is seems more sprightly and iCloud has worked it's magic so just the other stuff to transfer from the various archives. Every time I get a new ssd or, in this case computer I am full of good intentions about the lean mean machine It's going to be then it ends up with everything including the kitchen sink on there

2020 MBP M1 update.

Hmmm, well over the weekend the screen on my new MBP has taken to displaying flashing rectangles and fine horizontal lines. It's currently backing up to Time Machine and awaiting collection by Apple's couriers while I type this on the old 2012 MBP

[Guest]

Mmm, that didn't last long!

[Sam Spoons]

No, more than a little disappointed but that's life, there have to be a few that go wrong. Better now than out of warrantee and if they fix it promptly then I can live with that.

[ManFromGlass]

My luck is to have issues a few days after the warranty expires.
You are fortunate.

[Dave Rowles]

No, more than a little disappointed but that's life, there have to be a few that go wrong. Better now than out of warrantee and if they fix it promptly then I can live with that.

Yeah I'd much rather things fail quickly. Manufacturing errors, and random failures happen no matter how much you spend on things.

[Sam Spoons]

Well the MBP is finally on it's way home, at least UPS say it is but they said that last night and this morning before deciding it wasn't and was being 'held' by Czech Republic Customs due to a missing document. I had to phone UPS who couldn't do anything except suggest I called Apple so they could send the document. Apple said (after a 15 minute call, mostly spent on hold) that they would send the 'pro forma invoice' by email to UPS but it would take 24 hours (it's a fecking email FFS, push the fecking button and send it...). Anyway 40 mins after my call to Apple UPS emailed to say the package was scheduled for delivery tomorrow and tracking now says it's 'on the way'... Fecking Brexit, what a totally stupid idea that was...

[Drew Stephenson]

But Johnson said there weren't going to be any non-tariff barriers? He wouldn't have lied to the House would he?
Hopefully you'll have your hands on a fully working device shortly.

[Guest]

Boris lying.

Who would have thought it.

Seems to go down well with the voters though.

[OneWorld]

All I can say is... Apple are going to sell a metric shedload of Macs over the coming year...

Sadly not to me...

And sadly, not to me either.
Even a simple thing like auditioning multiple audio/sample files in Windows isn’t possible on a Mac, Photos keeps crashing, and the price you pay for the "Mac Experience" doesn’t last long before it’s not supported, plus, Macs aren’t infallible, mine is a 2014 27 inch i Mac top spec, and it’s needed a total nuke twice since I’ve owned it.
All in all, I’d never waste my money on a Mac again...................

Yep, as the old adage goes "Nobody ever went bankrupt underestimating the gullibility of the great unwashed"

I think the same goes for Apple phones, yes they are good, but way over-priced, Huawei were snapping at the heels of Apple, their phones were getting too good. It is hardly surprising the Trumpster banned them, as one thing for sure, market forces wouldn't have repelled them (the competition)

[OneWorld]

But Johnson said there weren't going to be any non-tariff barriers? He wouldn't have lied to the House would he?

Well he would say that wouldn't he, he couldn't lie straight in bed, and will say anything to suit the moment. On a radio phone in the other day it became established that nowadays the populace don't delude themselves into the notion that politicians are squeaky clean and there is universal acceptance of malodourous doings and that the difference between politicians is that some are better at covering their tracks than other. What a poor state of affairs.

[s_e_a_n]

In Ireland we're seeing up close the impact of Brexit, and it's not caused by the UK, it's caused by the EU. Brussels is like a spoilt brat throwing a tantrum because someone dared to stop playing their game. The EEC was supposed to be a common trading area which allowed us all to benefit from relaxed border controls. Funnily enough, in Ireland we were never allowed to buy a car in England and drive it back to Ireland. We had to pay a huge import tax with the value of the car decided by Irish customs and excise. Import duties and taxes are all about extracting what you can from the public. Brexit had nothing to do with Johnson, he's just the idiot that was in power(?) when it went through. As Sam Spoons says, above, it was held by Czech customs, that means EU restrictions not UK ones.

[Howdy Doody Time]

Mmm, that didn't last long!

Indeed. Quality Control not up to the mark would be a fair assumption then.

[Howdy Doody Time]

In Ireland we're seeing up close the impact of Brexit, and it's not caused by the UK, it's caused by the EU. Brussels is like a spoilt brat throwing a tantrum because someone dared to stop playing their game. The EEC was supposed to be a common trading area which allowed us all to benefit from relaxed border controls. Funnily enough, in Ireland we were never allowed to buy a car in England and drive it back to Ireland. We had to pay a huge import tax with the value of the car decided by Irish customs and excise. Import duties and taxes are all about extracting what you can from the public. Brexit had nothing to do with Johnson, he's just the idiot that was in power(?) when it went through. As Sam Spoons says, above, it was held by Czech customs, that means EU restrictions not UK ones.

After reading excerpts from Barniers book "The Great Illusion" where he discusses Johnsons flimsy grasp of the problems, and his subsequent retraction of agreements reached during meetings, along with the necessity of the EU delegation to assume the role of the "adults in the room" I'm amazed the EU can even be bothered with the UK at all.

[johnny h]

In Ireland we're seeing up close the impact of Brexit, and it's not caused by the UK, it's caused by the EU. Brussels is like a spoilt brat throwing a tantrum because someone dared to stop playing their game. The EEC was supposed to be a common trading area which allowed us all to benefit from relaxed border controls. Funnily enough, in Ireland we were never allowed to buy a car in England and drive it back to Ireland. We had to pay a huge import tax with the value of the car decided by Irish customs and excise. Import duties and taxes are all about extracting what you can from the public. Brexit had nothing to do with Johnson, he's just the idiot that was in power(?) when it went through. As Sam Spoons says, above, it was held by Czech customs, that means EU restrictions not UK ones.

It's not about 'tantrums', it's about learning how annoying and inconvenient it is to exist under 'third country' rules instead of the single market, which we could have easily stayed in despite Brexit. Johnson knew what he was doing - trashing the economy so his hedge fund backers could make a tidy profit shorting the UK industries that would get (and have got) hammered with hard Brexit.

[Eddy Deegan]

This is supposed to be a thread about Macs, not politics.

Please abandon the political discussion here, keep replies on (or near) the topic of Macs and raise separately anything political in the lounge!

Thank you folks.