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Hardware Multimeter?

Post by siderealxxx »

Aloha.

Contrary to the "trust your ears, don't mix visually" argument, I use Logics channel EQ analyzer *all the time* when producing and mixing. I find it phenomenally helpful and the response in Logics EQ (as opposed to many other 3rd party options) is very precise and revealing.

I'd like the option to have it on screen all the time but it just gets in the way. So I was looking at external hardware options but the only thing I can see is the TC Electronic Clarity https://www.tcelectronic.com/product.ht ... Code=P0DC8. This seems to use block/bands for it's EQ readout rather than the graphic display in Logic.

Are there any other options? Does anyone have any experience with this? Failing that the only option would be to buy a mini-monitor like this https://www.beetronics.co.uk/7-inch-monitor (very expensive!) and put Logics EQ on it in a screenset for all time.

Curious what anyone thinks - merci.
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There must still be be plenty of old small 17" or 18" flat screen monitors lying around that no-one uses any more. They can't all have been thrown away. You could probably get one for free.
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I find the TC Clarity extremely useful, but I rarely use it as a spectrum analyser. If you get one you will find many functions in there beyond your immediate needs, so may be money well spent, or overkill.
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Post by Mike Stranks »

That beetronics seems a very expensive option...

For my location video work I've just got a Corprit Full HD portable monitor. Thus far, I'm very pleased with it.

I got mine at a bargain price - thank you eBay and a son who could easily and happily do 'buyer collects' - but they seem to be readily available at much cheaper prices than the beetronics.
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Post by Hugh Robjohns »

The TC Clarity M meter is excellent value for money and provides a wealth of functions which many of us here find helpful. But you're right, its only frequency display currently is a 1/3 octave real-time analyser. This provides much the same information as the Fourier display, but obviously takes some experience to interpret and its not directly integrated with an equaliser, so the workflow would be different.

I'd have thought the best option -- assuming your graphics card can handle an additional screen -- would be to pick up a small cheap LCD screen and use that to host the Logic EQ window.
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Post by siderealxxx »

Thanks for the thoughts.

I should've mentioned that space is a constriction! I've had two monitor setups before and I don't find it very good ergonomically, plus it just wouldn't fit on my desk anymore!

The idea with the Beetronics is that it would sit directly underneath my iMac screen and wouldn't get in the way at all.

The TC clarity would fit well but as mentioned, probably overkill for my needs and wouldn't strictly give me what I want.

Maybe the Corprit will fit, I'll check it out!

Thanks ye muchly.
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Don't forget that with Mac OS you can use an iPad or iPhone as an additional monitor by using screen mirroring. Could be small enough to fit on your desk that way.

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If you want to go really geeky you could build a Raspberry Pi setup a bit like the ones that Will (Folderol) has built for his Yoshimi Pi project and run Reaper with its built in spectrum analyser taking up the whole screen. This gives you a choice of parameters so you can customise the display to do exactly what you want.
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zenguitar wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:14 pm Don't forget that with Mac OS you can use an iPad or iPhone as an additional monitor by using screen mirroring. Could be small enough to fit on your desk that way.

Andy :beamup:

This would be (and actually is occasionally) my solution, and the iPad(s) has many other uses like DAW/Mixer (X32C) control, lyrics/charts and so on.
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zenguitar wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:14 pm Don't forget that with Mac OS you can use an iPad or iPhone as an additional monitor by using screen mirroring. Could be small enough to fit on your desk that way.

Andy :beamup:

This would be good but it looks like my iPad and iMac are too old for sidecar. Not sure if it works via other means, will check this out...
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Post by aerotekmusic »

I've been using Sonnox Listenhub for a few weeks and it's been great. You can run it on an iPad and it works well as a basic frequency multimeter. I actually use it on my iPhone and although the buttons are small, it works well. I just wish it had stereo image monitoring options. But give it a try. Also, using the iPad with Sidecar with an analyzer on full screen could work out for you. Maybe something like iZotope Insight.
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siderealxxx wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:58 pm
zenguitar wrote: Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:14 pm Don't forget that with Mac OS you can use an iPad or iPhone as an additional monitor by using screen mirroring. Could be small enough to fit on your desk that way.

Andy :beamup:

This would be good but it looks like my iPad and iMac are too old for sidecar. Not sure if it works via other means, will check this out...

These guys recommend 'Duet Display' for older mac OS/iOS https://uk.pcmag.com/macintosh-os-x/122 ... y-computer
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Post by ef37a »

Not sure what this is all about but, screens? You can pickup small 4:3 monitors from charity shops for 15quid.
To go smaller look at ICE. I had a DVD player with about an 8"x6" screen and a slave screen, no DVD unit, that just accepted a video feed on mini jack. Google will show pinouts to get VGA into jack.

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Wonks and Dave have suggested older computer monitors. They're right; there are loads and loads available in charity shops and online.

BUT... I've explored that route... You'll almost certainly only get VGA input, which for my work (and probably for what the OP wants) is just not high-enough resolution. A couple of wasted purchases proved that point... :(

It took me sometime to find my Coprit at the right balance of price and HD video inputs.
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Mike Stranks wrote: Wed Apr 27, 2022 9:25 am Wonks and Dave have suggested older computer monitors. They're right; there are loads and loads available in charity shops and online.

BUT... I've explored that route... You'll almost certainly only get VGA input, which for my work (and probably for what the OP wants) is just not high-enough resolution. A couple of wasted purchases proved that point... :(

It took me sometime to find my Coprit at the right balance of price and HD video inputs.

High res' graphics on a tiny screen Mike? You must have bloody good eyesight!

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Post by Drew Stephenson »

VGA will happily handle 1280x1024, that should be more than enough to view an analyser?
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Yeh not overly fussed about resolution, just needs to be small enough to fit under my iMac!

I tried getting Logic Remote working on my old iPad and the basics worked but it wouldn't let me open plugin windows. Also not sure how responsive/laggy the UI will be.

I will borrow a newer iPad and see if this works. More expensive than a monitor but a darn sight more useful too!
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Post by n o i s e f l e ur »

If you do decide on the second screen / iPad (Sidecar);

https://www.plugin-alliance.com/en/prod ... ricab.html

Has stereo-imaging metering among its many useful functions.

An option you may not have considered when thinking about a second monitor is . . . you don't need to use the full area of the screen - if "wasting" the unused (and hidden down the back of your desk) portion of it doesn't bother you.
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