The Behringer Keyboards 'n' Stuff Thread #3

[FrankF]

Hmm, has anyone else noticed that there's a chip shortage but no shortage of chip fryers: is there something we're not being told?

Smells fishy to me...

[Hugh Robjohns]

Cars....

Just taking one item that's been in the news recently: Jaguar has just announced a cut to production citing a shortage of electronic sub-systems.

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-63756079.amp

Modern cars use a lot of electronics — over 150 processors pet vehicle compared to one in a blood pressure monitor, door bell, or washing machine.

My daughter needs a replacement controller board for her oven. It's on back-order due to a shortage of parts.

Consumer availability also depends on the batch production sizes, frequency of demand, and warehousing volumes.

[FrankF]

My daughter needs a replacement controller board for her oven. It's on back-order due to a shortage of parts.

Buy her a chip fryer to tide her over! They're so much unhealthier!

[Drew Stephenson]

Well that didn't last long!

Cars TV's washing machines radios hi-fi door bells cash registers blood pressure machines phones tablets computers hot tubs shed alarms, is it that synthesisers are particularly special?

Virtually every market sector has struggled with chip shortages over the last couple of years, the impact varies hugely (cars were massively affected at one point) and so does the recovery (Behringer may be a big player in the audio industry but they're not compared to someone like Sony or Asus).

But fundamentally this is proximity bias - you're very close to this industry so more aware of the problems.

[Wonks]

It's not necessarily an actual shortage of chips, they very often exist in their millions. The main problem is often that they are piled up in warehouses, still waiting to be shipped or distributed.

All the right chips, just not necessarily in the right place.

[Folderol]

It's not necessarily an actual shortage of chips, they very often exist in their millions. The main problem is often that they are piled up in warehouses, still waiting to be shipped or distributed.

All the right chips, just not necessarily in the right place.

An absolute classic, and so is Eric's response when André ad-libs with "I'll go and get my baton... it's in Chicago"

[N i g e l]

I had forgotten about the baton !

Asking the difficult question at Synthfest.

(the question in question being about chips/manufacturing wrt synth gear)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFLKT6wW2Kg

starts about 5:00

long story shortage - it depends on which chips your using !

bonus points if you spotted anyone you know

[Drew Stephenson]

long story shortage - it depends on which chips your using !

Hence Focusrite re-engineering their range.

[Arpangel]

I’ve been thinking about this a bit, and I have absolutely no right to criticise Behringer in any way whatsoever, among items of theirs that I own, two interfaces, two pairs of monitors, a mother keyboard, half of my modular is populated by Behringer Modules, I have a mini mixer, a volume pedal, and an FX unit, without Behringer my studio wouldn’t exist.
Baring all this in mind, I look forward to a complementary VCS3 when it finally comes out, for my ongoing unstinting loyalty, and, for giving free publicity to a company that has truly democratised the world of recording, music making, they have made things that were before unaffordable, and unattainable, to musucians worldwide
And when I do receive my VCS, I’ll willingly give it an in-depth review, that I know, will be nothing less than a glowing tribute, and long may Behringer continue to be the saviour that it is, a company that truly cares about making music affordable to everyone, even the most impoverished of musicians, we all owe a vast debt, and it’s difficult to imagine a world, now, without Behringer.

[Drew Stephenson]

[Hugh Robjohns]

I've suddenly come over very queasy.

[Eddy Deegan]

it’s difficult to imagine a world, now, without Behringer.

Similar for me, but it's Arturia as opposed to Behrinwhoever

[Folderol]

it’s difficult to imagine a world, now, without Behringer.

Similar for me, but it's Arturia as opposed to Behrinwhoever

Same for me, but in my case amazingly, it's all about <click>BRRRRRRR

[MOF]

it’s difficult to imagine a world, now, without Behringer

Until a month ago I didn’t own anything of theirs, I bought a cable tester for work.

[The Elf]

Similar for me, but it's Arturia as opposed to Behrinwhoever

I'm just discovering the Arturia V collection, and yes, I can see what you mean...

[Arpangel]

it’s difficult to imagine a world, now, without Behringer.

Similar for me, but it's Arturia as opposed to Behrinwhoever

Please say you didn’t take that post seriously.

[Martin Walker]

Please say you didn’t take that post seriously.

We were indeed rather concerned for your mental health Tony

[Arpangel]

Please say you didn’t take that post seriously.

We were indeed rather concerned for your mental health Tony

So was I!



Elf, the V Collection is still good, but it used to be frighteningly good when it first came out, I genuinely thought that I had the instruments it was replicating, with no need to have the real thing, they were that good, especially the Moog Modular, and 2600, they were almost too rich and fruity.
Then, they changed them, and now I hardly use those things, I still use it for some things, like the Rhodes, Wurly, and organs.

[tea for two]

Anal Lab4 probably changed the sound. I have this.
Anal Lab2 is prolly the original sound which can't get these days.
Although I have an old download from when I purchased Anal Player nearly decade earlier that could still have the original sound.
https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/ar ... er-factory

[IAA]

Interestingly, when I migrated my studio recently to Apple silicon I decided everything had to run native. So reviewing all my soft synths (what I have installed against what do I actually use) I decided just to use v collection. And although I’ve had it for years, I’m really thinking it’s first rate and I’d rather use these in a project than invest in small analog retro synths.

[Arpangel]

Interestingly, when I migrated my studio recently to Apple silicon I decided everything had to run native. So reviewing all my soft synths (what I have installed against what do I actually use) I decided just to use v collection. And although I’ve had it for years, I’m really thinking it’s first rate and I’d rather use these in a project than invest in small analog retro synths.

The only Arturia thing I use now is the JP8, the Rhodes and Wurly are just about usable, but not my first choice, Mellotron isn’t bad.

[t-sun]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8IGN4F3hdY

Introducing Behringer PRO-800, the worlds first analog 8-Voice poly synth that is affordable for everyone.

Delivering 8 fully analog voices with 2 VCO’s per voice, the PRO-800 faithfully delivers the amazing sound and experience of this historic synthesizer from 1982, all while introducing brand new features in a form factor that works within modern-day setups.

You need presets? We Hear You. PRO-800 delivers user memories for up to 400 sounds.

PRO-800 is also fitted with the iconic GliGli modification as standard, in addition to many of the new features that we have implemented including, the noise generator which was only ever found on the rare Japanese editions, full MIDI cc control, USB MIDI connectivity, dual polyphonic sequencer, dedicated LFO with 6 waveshapes, and VCA overdrive.

PRO800. True 8-Voice Analog Polyphony, now affordable for everyone.

Estimated Price USD $599, Shipping April 2023.

Video makes it pretty clear they're aiming at the Minilogue XD module.

[Arpangel]

Something is only introduced if it's actually available, its a bit like introducing me at a party and then saying "but he won't be coming until April"
I'll keep my eyes open sometime in 2025.
All these announcements became tiresome a long time ago.

[t-sun]

They announced it almost two years ago, this is the first time they've put a release date on it.