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A way to prevent music theft?

Post by Adam Artman »

Hello to my all friends.i hope you be hope and health.
my question is:
If i wanna send my music to the online Mix and Mastering Engineer,players,song writers for example,how can i prevent my music theft?
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Re: A way to prevent music theft?

Post by Drew Stephenson »

Honestly I wouldn't worry about it. The effort to try and do something like that completely overwhelms the reward you get from it.
What is the real risk? You've got all your previous versions on your file, you have the original audio files, all timestamped by your OS. If someone does copy something then you have all the evidence to take them to court.
But the risk is tiny.
Unless you're already really successful, in which case you're dealing with professionals who won't risk their reputation on something like that.

Just concentrate on making music.
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Post by James Perrett »

I'd agree with Drew.

Just make sure that you have some kind of traceable files of your music. I'd suggest putting them on some kind of cloud service so that there is a record of the upload time. Computer clocks can be changed so can't really be used as proof but it is difficult to do that with some kind of third party cloud service.
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Re: A way to prevent music theft?

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Thank you so much for your professors helps.
sorry for my late thanks.
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Re: A way to prevent music theft?

Post by Stickman0_3 »

I'd register it with the PRS. Maybe keep a signed and dated copy and also send a master tape to yourself - recorded delivery so you sign for it when you receive it.
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Post by l-l1tsb0urg »

I have personal experience with music theft. There's no way to prevent it. The best advice I can offer is to copyright your music. It's not complicated, and it's money well spent. Owning the copyright helped when I had to get legal, and it made winning the case so much easier :bouncy: .
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l-l1tsb0urg wrote: Thu Nov 03, 2022 6:18 pm I have personal experience with music theft. There's no way to prevent it. The best advice I can offer is to copyright your music. It's not complicated, and it's money well spent. Owning the copyright helped when I had to get legal, and it made winning the case so much easier :bouncy: .

Just to be pedantic, copyright is automatic in the US, UK and EU at the point a work is fixed.
However registering that copyright can a) make any legal shenanigans much, much easier (as highlighted above) and b) in the US it allows you to claim statutory damages rather than actual damages (which can make a huge difference).
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Post by Adam Artman »

Thank you so much my friends.
How can i register my music copyright before i send it to the others?
where i can do that online?
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Post by Drew Stephenson »

Copyright law is national in terms of implementation and enforcement, this means you need to register it in every country that you expect to have to enforce it to get the full benefits globally.
Interestingly the wikipedia article on registering copyrights in Iran doesn't include music in the list of copyrightable items: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellect ... Copyrights

In the US, which I think is where the biggest difference in registered vs unregistered effects are there are loads of companies who will register it for you for a fee, but I think you can still register it yourself: https://www.copyright.gov/registration/
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Re: A way to prevent music theft?

Post by tea for two »

Adam Artman wrote: Sun Sep 18, 2022 10:19 pm
If i wanna send my music to the online Mix and Mastering Engineer ....

2020 I met in person a Grammy award winning Mastering Engineer. I left a USB stick with an album of my music with this engineer to be mastered. In the end I mastered the album myself.
USB stick of my music is still with this Mastering Engineer 2 years on as I trust them and I couldn't be bothered.
If some persons chances upon this album and wants to use the music they are welcome to, I'd be chuffed someone thought the music was worth it.

This is just my way.

The advice already offered on this thread is better for you than my way.
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Re: A way to prevent music theft?

Post by RichardT »

Check what the situation is in Iran in relation to copyright. It may differ from other places such as the US and UK.

I would agree with people who have said that the risks are low, though. Very low when it comes to mastering and mixing engineers!

But there are things you can do that are very simple and are probably worth the effort.

Make sure you generate multiple versions of your tunes as you develop them. This can be helpful as it demonstrates that your music was created step by step and not be copying something else.

Secondly, backup your files regularly to an internet backup service. This will generate time stamps against your data that are pretty much impossible to fake. Make sure the backups include rendered versions of your music as well as the DAW files.

These steps will provide really good evidence of when and how your music was developed.
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Re: A way to prevent music theft?

Post by firesoundwave »

As others said, uploading it to some social media with time stamps can prove you published it first. This is what I also do.
I have been working with the understanding anything I create has automatic copyright and I just need to prove it is mine.
I also write clear terms of use for my music on my website. For example, free for listening, but a license must be negotiated for commercial use.
To me, I think who would steal it? If I make my online presence very active and have my music on social media. I think it would be pretty weird for someone to try and steal it because I could get their commercial projects shut down.
And just for listening, well its free anyway. This one would be harder to deal with though. I would just not even try and say it is good exposure if more people listen and share?
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Re: A way to prevent music theft?

Post by Mankhush »

The term for any type of publication or media product theft would plagiarism. There are many other terms for the misappropriation of another person’s work whether it is writing, music, art, and other media. If I wrote a similar book that duplicated content, I could be sued for plagiarism.

That is why creative works should be copyrighted. Anytime a copyrighted item is infringed upon without the knowledge or permission of the creator, the respective owners can sue for damages.
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Mankhush wrote: Sun Jan 29, 2023 1:17 pmAnytime a copyrighted item is infringed upon without the knowledge or permission of the creator, the respective owners can sue for damages.

That's not entirely true. Most copyright regimes have exceptions for fair use / fair dealing in some form or other however this varies greatly from country to country and can often require a court-case to establish unless there is a clear and consistent precedent.
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