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I have a 1202 that I've had in my storage for a while. Recently brought it out, cleaned it up but unfortunately hearing MASSIVE noise and hiss from the headphone and main outputs. Would love some information on how I can tackle resolving this issue and getting this mixer back to working order.
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Thankfully got this resolved. :)
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Clean all connections especially including internal ribbon cables with Deoxit D5. Check and clean insert jacks the same.
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Copy that. Thanks for the suggestion.

resistorman wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:47 am Clean all connections especially including internal ribbon cables with Deoxit D5. Check and clean insert jacks the same.

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I was told WD-40 works as well.
I have a 1202 that refuses to die. And it does that amazing distortion trick that none of the other Mackies do.
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ManFromGlass wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:58 am I was told WD-40 works as well.

Its not bad for mild cases in gentle climes :)
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johnghadimi wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:26 am Thankfully got this resolved. :)

Cool! what was the issue and how was it resolved?
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My own mistake.. I had one of the mic channel trims open all the way.. causing the noise issue.

resistorman wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 3:14 am
johnghadimi wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:26 am Thankfully got this resolved. :)

Cool! what was the issue and how was it resolved?

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ManFromGlass wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:58 am And it does that amazing distortion trick that none of the other Mackies do.

It’s obviously not a VLZ, I have one, and the distortion isn’t special.
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Re switch cleaners...I too have used WD-40 for decades with no problems. However I recently needed to clean a couple of pots in a bit of gear I am looking to sell and since there is a bit of a 'down' on WD in some circles and it leaves a characteristic smell behind (which I in fact find quite pleasant) I decided to buy some 'proper stuff'.

Fork! Isn't DE-OXIT expensive! I knew WD had a "Specialist Contact Cleaner" so I ordered a 440mL can of that for about a tenner. Works a treat and leaves no smell. It does however smell very similar I think to "Servisol" which I used more than 50 years ago as a 'prentice!

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Arpangel wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 6:59 am
ManFromGlass wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:58 am And it does that amazing distortion trick that none of the other Mackies do.

It’s obviously not a VLZ, I have one, and the distortion isn’t special.

Yes it was only the original 1202 that does the distortion in it’s own special way. I heard a number of club music people ran their kick drums through it for “that” sound. I run my V-drums through it and the entire kit sounds like it is burning up with crispy distortion. Then I run that through guitar fuzz or other forms of distortion. Go big or go home!
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It was very popular with sampler-ists too, sample distorted & then play back clean.
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Standard WD40 is basically a mixture of paraffins (alkanes) and mineral oil. It's the paraffin that does the cleaning, the mineral oil the lubricating after the paraffin has evaporated. So if you want the WD40 cleaning effect without the oil, just use paraffin.
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Wonks wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 1:16 pm Standard WD40 is basically a mixture of paraffins (alkanes) and mineral oil. It's the paraffin that does the cleaning, the mineral oil the lubricating after the paraffin has evaporated. So if you want the WD40 cleaning effect without the oil, just use paraffin.

Hmm, there have been many opinions about the exact formula for WD-40 over the years including several that say it contains fish oils!

I have not smelled paraffin I think since dad stopped using it in his sump lamp 70s years ago but IIRC it did not smell like WD? Most oils don't have a discernable smell so I wonder what it is in it that does pong? I do recall many years ago we used a contact cleaner from Rank Bush Murphy and that smelled positively FLORAL. It was quite flammable as well. We used it on 405/625 'system switches' and it would catch fire as you worked the switch and it switched the HT. Quick puff and it was out.

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Modern day H&S data sheets give its basic composition away. There may well be something smelly but non-hazardous in there as well to give it that particular smell.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WD-40
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Wonks wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 2:00 pm Modern day H&S data sheets give its basic composition away. There may well be something smelly but non-hazardous in there as well to give it that particular smell.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WD-40

Very interesting Wonks. The connection with rocketry is interesting because at my second TV works the boss swore by a product called "C-R-C Rocket Fuel" and we used it in the same way as WD-40, that is to displace damp from car ignition systems (Today's young drivers don't know how easy they have it!)
C-R-C seems to have vanished long ago but WD goes on.

Do not BTW be tempted to use WD-40 to clean firearms. It is a decent lubricant but will strip the bluing off your Purdeys!

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ManFromGlass wrote: Wed Mar 08, 2023 12:53 pm Yes it was only the original 1202 that does the distortion in its own special way. I heard a number of club music people ran their kick drums through it for “that” sound. I run my V-drums through it and the entire kit sounds like it is burning up with crispy distortion. Then I run that through guitar fuzz or other forms of distortion. Go big or go home!

I'm seeing a time, coming very soon, where people will want ultra high fidelity, cleaner than clean, anything lo-fi will be out, completely.
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Arpangel wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 7:47 am I'm seeing a time, coming very soon, where people will want ultra high fidelity, cleaner than clean, anything lo-fi will be out, completely.

We're about due the shift to that part of the cycle. Listening to a lot of modern stuff it's swathed in saturation, distortion and clipping so there's definitely space for someone to come in and sound very different by taking that hi-fi/clean route.
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Arpangel wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 7:47 amI'm seeing a time, coming very soon, where people will want ultra high fidelity, cleaner than clean, anything lo-fi will be out, completely.

That happened for me in the late 70s, and its never gone away! :lol:
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Drew Stephenson wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:18 am
Arpangel wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 7:47 am I'm seeing a time, coming very soon, where people will want ultra high fidelity, cleaner than clean, anything lo-fi will be out, completely.

We're about due the shift to that part of the cycle. Listening to a lot of modern stuff it's swathed in saturation, distortion and clipping so there's definitely space for someone to come in and sound very different by taking that hi-fi/clean route.

I’ve just ordered an RME interface, new monitors, and had my room treated, I’m also selling all my reverb units.

:)
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Hugh Robjohns wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:49 am
Arpangel wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 7:47 amI'm seeing a time, coming very soon, where people will want ultra high fidelity, cleaner than clean, anything lo-fi will be out, completely.

That happened for me in the late 70s, and its never gone away! :lol:

Abso-bloody-lutely. IMO there are just TWO sorts of music...

The very best performance, recorded in a good acoustic and sounding as close to the artist's and producer's wishes and ideas.

Everything else.

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Arpangel wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:55 am
Drew Stephenson wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:18 am
Arpangel wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 7:47 am I'm seeing a time, coming very soon, where people will want ultra high fidelity, cleaner than clean, anything lo-fi will be out, completely.

We're about due the shift to that part of the cycle. Listening to a lot of modern stuff it's swathed in saturation, distortion and clipping so there's definitely space for someone to come in and sound very different by taking that hi-fi/clean route.

I’ve just ordered an RME interface, new monitors, and had my room treated, I’m also selling all my reverb units.

:)

Now, we KNOW you are going to regret that Tony! (not the RME thing IHTA)

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ef37a wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:57 am
Arpangel wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:55 am
Drew Stephenson wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:18 am
Arpangel wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 7:47 am I'm seeing a time, coming very soon, where people will want ultra high fidelity, cleaner than clean, anything lo-fi will be out, completely.

We're about due the shift to that part of the cycle. Listening to a lot of modern stuff it's swathed in saturation, distortion and clipping so there's definitely space for someone to come in and sound very different by taking that hi-fi/clean route.

I’ve just ordered an RME interface, new monitors, and had my room treated, I’m also selling all my reverb units.

:)

Now, we KNOW you are going to regret that Tony! (not the RME thing IHTA)

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Arpangel wrote: Thu Mar 09, 2023 10:55 am I’ve just ordered an RME interface, new monitors, and had my room treated, I’m also selling all my reverb units.

:)

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