Yamaha 01v96 v2 channels 9-16 wont turn on

[AlecSp]

Pressing the ON button doesn't do anything, however I can turn them on/off via the menu.

[Image link fixed] That definitely looks like a hardware fault. Either a faulty switch, or board, or an internal connection.

Do I have some sort of hardware issue? If that is the case, maybe I can just return this thing where I got it and get a different one.

Definitely - if sold as fully working, it isn't.

I'll suggest again, try and get a more user-friendly (and less aged) mixer. Even if you have to pay more, you're unlikely to regret it.

I'd a couple of other ideas, but resetting the desk would have blown them away, and that half lit LED isn't something I've seen on any Yamaha desk I've worked on.
Hopefully Hugh might have an "Aha!" moment.

No doubt in my mind that it's faulty.
And, remember, he'd done a reset before the original post, so there's been a lot of rather pointless dancing around here.

I still like the Yamaha 01V96 (I spent a lot of time on the original 02R, the later 02R96, the DM2000 and a 01V96- never got to use a DM1000 to complete the set!)

You're a masochist!
These desks were great in their day. But a 20 year old design with a dreadful interface, and no easy remote control (I can't count Studio Manager) really doesn't cut it today. Even Yamaha's legendary build quality can't beat Father Time.

[Hugh Robjohns]

Hopefully Hugh might have an "Aha!" moment.

No. It looks increasingly like a faulty desk. I'm not surprised, these things are pretty elderly now.

I have, and still use a DM1000, but a few years back several faders decided not to work and it turned out the driver circuitry had packed up. It needed lots of new driver transistors and many pound notes...

In its day it was s lot of desk for the money, and it's still a very capable desk... but rather antiquated in its operating system and user interface. When it starts failing again it will be retired.

[drickner]

thanks for all the help. I've contact the seller on Reverb and hopefully we can get it sent back and a refund.

Other consoles I've looked at are the Tascam Model 12 or 24, soundcraft SI series. 90% of the time, I'm doing small live events, but there are a few times where I want to do 12-16 track recording. We have AH SQ6 at the church, but I can't afford one of those for myself.

[AlecSp]

Other consoles I've looked at are the Tascam Model 12 or 24, soundcraft SI series. 90% of the time, I'm doing small live events, but there are a few times where I want to do 12-16 track recording. We have AH SQ6 at the church, but I can't afford one of those for myself.

Those Tascams are just analog desks with audio interfaces - none of the benefits of a digital desk.
Soundcraft Si will feel quite a letdown compared with the SQ you're used to.

I've said elsewhere that it's really between X/M32 and SQ for desks with a surface in the sub £10,000 market these days.

However, if you're out doing live events on a budget, I'd now be mixing on glass with a stagebox mixer every time. With what you lose with having no physical controls, you gain in reduced kit, not having to run a multicore (or even cat5), and not needing dedicated FOH space - all of this counts for a lot in many events. It feels scary at first, and you need to be network literate, but the benefits soon outweigh the drawbacks. I spent years feeling I was fighting with my 01v96 but, the day I got my XR18, everything fell into place.

There's a much wider choice of these but, for the budget conscious, and your channel count, it's really between XR18 and UI24R. You'll hear arguments either way, but it really is swings and roundabouts - they both do a cracking job on a budget - as well as shrinking the pack size hugely. Try out the software for both (Mixing Station works on both, and UI has a web-based interface that's like Marmite). Just make sure you use an external router/access point (the internal routers in all these mixers will let you down at the worst times)

[OneWorld]

I had the 01v96 way back when and really liked it, especially as there was the remote layer. Anyway I sold it when I decided to go in the box. Some time ago I was offered a 01v96i for a real bargain price, and sort of hanker after another 01v96 because they sell quite cheap, but they are getting quite old now. If I ever got another mixer, it would be a contemporary model, they are very complex and when they get old are difficult to get fixed. I don’t think I would pay more than £200 for one in working condition, and even then it would just end up as something to mess around with

[drickner]

I'm not opposed to an analog with interface, that's why I thought about the tascam. I was really trying to get much better quality by going a few year old and getting a 'real' console. I still have the old GL3800 x 48 in the closet, but my wife is refusing to help me get it out the closet any more so I was trying to downsize and be at 12 - 16 channels.

Maybe a soundcraft GB series would be better for me? Not being able to multi-track record isn't a huge deal breaker for me right now. Like I said earlier, I rarely do that. In fact, it's been 5 years since that has happened. Now I'm just thinking out loud.

[OneWorld]

I'm not opposed to an analog with interface, that's why I thought about the tascam. I was really trying to get much better quality by going a few year old and getting a 'real' console. I still have the old GL3800 x 48 in the closet, but my wife is refusing to help me get it out the closet any more so I was trying to downsize and be at 12 - 16 channels.

Maybe a soundcraft GB series would be better for me? Not being able to multi-track record isn't a huge deal breaker for me right now. Like I said earlier, I rarely do that. In fact, it's been 5 years since that has happened. Now I'm just thinking out loud.

I had the TASCAM Model 24, it had to be returned, it went wrong, I got my money back

[AlecSp]

I'm not opposed to an analog with interface, that's why I thought about the tascam. I was really trying to get much better quality by going a few year old and getting a 'real' console. I still have the old GL3800 x 48 in the closet, but my wife is refusing to help me get it out the closet any more so I was trying to downsize and be at 12 - 16 channels.

While small live setups used to thrive on desks like this, they're so limiting compared with even the most basic digital mixer. While I don't know what live work you expect to do, being limited to 2 monitor outputs wouldn't cut it in most places these days. Not to mention the lack of proper dynamics/EQ/effects, etc. And then there's the analogue snake.

Nothing wrong with the old GL3800 in its day, but I bet it needs some care and attention these days. Don't forget the rack of outboard to make it usable, the massive flight case, and the two+ man lift. My little stagebox mixer is smaller and lighter than a GL3800 power supply...

We had our first "analog only" act in a few months back. It was rather tragic to see how much kit they needed, how long it took them to load-in and rig it. And then to debug problems in the snake and some of the outboard. Even though I knew ages ago, that cemented that I'm never going back to the dark side...

[Tomás Mulcahy]

I still have the old GL3800 x 48 in the closet

That's the most reliable analogue desk of recentish times that I've used. There's a GL2400 still in use at work after 14 years, not even a scratchy pot. Friend of mine just bought a smaller version used, same condition. In fairness, we've just retired a PM5000 and it's still fully functional, it must be twenty years old? Whereas the 02R96 and the 01V did not age well.

Are you against the Midas M32? There's a reason it's omnipresent...

[Mike Stranks]

Let's cut to the chase, OP!

What's your maximum budget?

I used to inhabit the 'live plus sometimes multitrack' world, so still know my way around that reasonably well...

[drickner]

My budget is around $800 or so, 12 - 16 channels, and I don't need a road case right away. I think I would rather get something a few years old than one of the new small format consoles. I am not interested in an X32. I have had too much bad experience with that brand in the past.

I'm looking at Tascam, Soundcraft, etc. The SQ I'm used to is just too far out of my price range, and the AH Zed we had didn't last very long.

I really wish I had bought the Midas Venice I saw several years ago, but at the time I wasn't needing it for anything. lol.

FYI, I've contacted the seller of the Yamaha, and I'm trying to get it returned.

[Mike Stranks]

You might want to explore this:

https://www.presonus.com/products/StudioLive-16.0.2-USB

Within your budget, but maximum of 12 mic inputs...

Someone who used to inhabit this forum called it an 'analogue mixer on steroids'. I call it 'half-digital'...

I had one for several years for live and was well-pleased. Did away with all my outboard at a stroke. But I have no personal experience of the USB version. Mine was Firewire and proved to be somewhat glitchy on recording... I have seen no negative reports on any aspect of the USB version, but do make sure it's the USB version being reviewed/commented on if trawling for videos/reviews. (Of course, it doesn't record on SD/USB stick, but needs an external laptop or other recording platform. Don't know if that's a game-changer for you.. I'm contemplating making the same 'jump'!)

[AlecSp]

I am not interested in an X32. I have had too much bad experience with that brand in the past.

They've proven rather more reliable than many, though...

[Mike Stranks]

I am not interested in an X32. I have had too much bad experience with that brand in the past.

They've proven rather more reliable than many, though...

Just picking-up on the original comment, referenced by Alec...

Do you mean you've had personal bad experience of the X32 or of other Behringer products?

The X32 is, rightly, hugely popular and is used by all sorts of people in all sorts of situations... It has stood the course of time in terms of functionality, performance, reliability and price.

Behringer/Music Group these days is not all about cheap 'n' cheerful large format mixers which are somewhat flaky in terms of reliability. I've been there and done that... Their several digital mixers have all proved useful, reliable and cost-effective. There are many people here, who are very experienced, hard-nosed, sound-techs who use them week-in, week-out with no problems and recommend them to others.

[Tomás Mulcahy]

Seconding AlecSP’s recomendations. The tablet based software for both is very intuitive and you can try it online. Only problem is XR18 is out of stock…the Soundcraft costs more but is in stock… but you’re avoiding that brand so I guess that’s ok Best of luck getting the Yamaha returned.

[Sam Spoons]

My budget is around $800 or so, 12 - 16 channels, and I don't need a road case right away. I think I would rather get something a few years old than one of the new small format consoles. I am not interested in an X32. I have had too much bad experience with that brand in the past.

Given your budget even a used X32 Producer is going to be out of reach and there is nothing else on the market that will give you that functionality and reliability for similar money.

Many of us have had 'anti-Behringer' sentiments in the past from using some of the dodgy products they have made but the X32 range is not one of those and the stats speak for themselves, when the X32 had been around a couple of years and sales were around 300,000 Thomann reported returns were the lowest of any other digital mixer they sold.

WRT what to buy given your limited budget I'd consider a used X32 Rack or a new XR18. but neither have a physical surface.

[Mike Stranks]

If it has to be digital and have a control surface then one is fishing a very small pond - even second-user!

... which is why I suggested giving the Presonus the once-over...

[AlecSp]

... which is why I suggested giving the Presonus the once-over...

It's one of those previous generation digital mixers, which was fine in it's time, but feels very limited in today's market. At one point, I was tempted to replace my 01v96 with one of these - glad I waited a little.

No recallable pre-amp gains, 60mm non-motorised faders, only 4 aux sends for monitors, no Android remote control (other than for monitor mixes), remote control requires a USB connected PC to interface with a router. While it's hard to know what real failure rates are, they certainly didn't seem to fare as well as other devices, including X32.

As SamSpoons rightly observes, not much is in stock at the moment. And, sadly, even when it is, prices are way above what they were pre-pandemic. You would have been able to pick up an XR18, UI24, X32 Rack, or used X32 Producer within your budget. Academic, as they're not available at those prices, and you've ruled them out.

The OP has clearly used decent large analog desks in the past, and a decent SQ digital desk, but is running the gamut of old/flakey gear at the moment. Good luck in your endeavours...

[Mike Stranks]

Alec, you seem to be overlooking what the OP has said in his earlier posts and what his budget is.

Bearing in mind his budget, his requirements and what else he's been perusing, then the Presonus is certainly worth considering. Still being produced and available new for his budget.

[AlecSp]

Alec, you seem to be overlooking what the OP has said in his earlier posts and what his budget is.

Bearing in mind his budget, his requirements and what else he's been perusing, then the Presonus is certainly worth considering. Still being produced and available new for his budget.

Working on the basis that the OP has a budget of $800 (let's assume that's USD), Sweetwater prices show:
PreSonus StudioLive 16.0.2 USB - $1,299 - 60% over-budget
XR18 - $739 (but out of stock)
UI24R - $1,279
I was most shocked at X32 US prices - more than double what they used to be, and not a massive gap up to SQ...

So, in the OP's price range for new digital is XR18 (or less), but that's ruled out.
So, it's look out for better used kit, or budget analog.

Oh, for the halcyon days of 4 years ago, with cheap and available kit...

[Mike Stranks]

Wow! Why so expensive in USA?

I normally work on a parity basis for determining what US prices will be... is that generally shot or is it just Presonus who are causing my model to break?

In the UK they seem to be advertised at the £750-ish mark... Hence, my belief that using the 'parity' model it was in budget. Obviously not!

[sonics]

I normally work on a parity basis for determining what US prices will be... is that generally shot or is it just Presonus who are causing my model to break?

Parity? Way out these days. Depends on many factors. I highlighted this in the recent thread about headphones. Example was the AKG K702. On sale at Amazon UK for £79, then £99, now £125. Andertons have them at £175. US list price is $409, and they sell for $570 from dealers here in Canada. Quite a range of prices!

Another example is Roland. Very expensive here in Canada, whereas Yamaha prices are much closer to those in Europe, from the small sampling of instruments I've look at.

I'm also reminded of a couple of years ago. I could import a Behringer X32 rack for $900. Now it would cost me $2,200 to buy here.

[drickner]

Thanks for the ideas guys. I have looked at Presonus, even used one briefly years ago but I just never got the feel for the thing. While I only had the Yamaha for a few days, I found it not too bad to use and follow. It would have been just fine if it didn't have the issue it had. Shipped it back today.

With everything going on, I may be forced to wait a couple months before I get anything. Have a high school graduation about to happen and prom, so more expenses right now than I would like .

I was able to find a used Soundcraft SI Performer 2 for the top end of my budget on Ebay. Still waiting on my refund before I do anything though.

[drickner]

One thing I should probably mention is that we just moved, and I'm no longer at the big church with the SQ6. I'm not sure how much recording opportunities I will be having in the new location since most of it was people at the church. We would set up in the sanctuary and use the church mics going into a zoom hdd recorder that I still have. This was years before the SQ6 arrived.

So, technically I still can do multi with the zoom if I really have to.

[Mike Stranks]

Thanks for coming back drickner...

Hope you get the refund... and the Soundcraft!