Recording nylon string guitar
Re: Recording nylon string guitar
I'd imagine that the video method is preferred for live/video recordings as it keeps the mics out of the sight line, but you'd use a different method in the studio.
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There is actually a second pair of mics visible in some shots, flown from directly above the lip of the stage.
The main mics look somewhat like Gefell M270 or M296, but we don't get a close-up that is clear enough to tell for sure.
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Re: Recording nylon string guitar
Sam Inglis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2023 3:56 pm There is actually a second pair of mics visible in some shots, flown from directly above the lip of the stage.
The main mics look somewhat like Gefell M270 or M296, but we don't get a close-up that is clear enough to tell for sure.
There also seems to be another flown mic on a boom arm, even further back, visible on the upper right at 24s in or so. Though it's not that clear, so could be something to do with the wiring for the other flown mics.
There is always the possibility that the flown mics are part of the hall's permanent sound installation (you can see a flown speaker), and so may or may not be utilised for the recording.
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I think a small room without proper treatment will be inherently boomy and muddy. Just a duvet behind the player will not be enough. Floor, walls, corners and ceiling will all need treatment to reduce the small room bass build up. The recordings of the lady are all done in bigger more open spaces. I bet also there is some EQ and verb added to the recordings
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Re: Recording nylon string guitar
Very similar setup used here, looks like the mics are Schoeps in this case:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY5y4Rp3tU8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY5y4Rp3tU8
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Re: Recording nylon string guitar
Sam Inglis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:53 pm Very similar setup used here, looks like the mics are Schoeps in this case:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY5y4Rp3tU8
It sound's like it's pushing the levels to the limits and distorting in the loud bits. Whether that's the original recording or a decision made in mastering (or in the film transfer to digital format) I don't know.
Slight synch delay between the visuals and sound, much greater than the mic distance from the guitar.
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Given that it's turned down 7.6dB for Youtube it seems like someone has generally gone in overloud.
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It does sound like there's quite a bit of compression on some of these YouTube classical guitar videos. On the Bach one posted earlier, the player's breathing and clothes rubbing against the instrument are quite annoying on headphones.
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Julian Bream wiv 'is kit off doesn't bear thinking about 

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Re: Recording nylon string guitar
Sam Inglis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 26, 2023 4:53 pm Very similar setup used here, looks like the mics are Schoeps in this case:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY5y4Rp3tU8
That’ll be spaced omnis, Schoeps or Sennheiser MKH 8020s.
Best classical guitar sound I ever achieved was with a spaced omni pair of KM183s, similar distance to that shown in the video - in a cathedral.
The room had something to do with it

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Re: Recording nylon string guitar
There is a story, probably apocryphal, that Crowded House used to rehearse in the nude until Neil Finn caught some of his, ahem, senstive hairs, in his guitar strings somehow.
After that underpants were considered a minimum standard.
Apparently.
After that underpants were considered a minimum standard.
Apparently.
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Re: Recording nylon string guitar
Was this before they figured out which way and with what to play their guitars?


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