amanise wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 4:11 pmAunty Beeb gets a lot of unfair criticism in my book.
There's plenty of things the Beeb has done that deserve fair criticism, and I've no issue with that, but it doesn't need to be blamed for things unfairly!
And yes, for all it's faults broadcasting is in a far worse state in many other parts of the world
Technical Editor, Sound On Sound...
(But generally posting my own personal views and not necessarily those of SOS, the company or the magazine!)
In my world, things get less strange when I read the manual...
If only improving the background singers were that easy!
The backing vocalists were top drawer and accompanied not only Dusty but other top performers back then. The track I cited is probably not the best example of their work even on the Dusty shows as they're singing a refrain in unison and possibly mixed a little too high IMO. And back then no foldback for the performers I guess.
In this other song the three of them, Madeline Bell, Lesley Duncan and Barbara Moore are featured and to my ears they sing a sweet three part harmony complementing Dusty's great vocal. https://youtu.be/8XUsBkdN7Zs
IMO top shelf stuff from the BBC, produced by the great Stanley Dorfman which deserved better handling of the surviving audio some 40 years later. Yes, something to do with taming resonances, the title of this thread.
Hugh Robjohns wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 3:33 pm
I'd say the sound on the YT presentation is seriously lacking bass rather than just having a mid-range hump — possibly to reduce recorded hum? — but we all listen with different ears.
I agree the bass might do with some boost but my main focus is the mid range because that's where our ears are most sensitive and where especially the vocal shriek/squawk/honk colouring occurs. Obviously the Dusty shows are very much focussed on the vocals. We're fortunate to have the reference of Dusty's own voice on her studio and other good quality live recordings, and that's what I've used as my EQ reference. I plan to upload a video to YT with the EQ change(s) toggled in and out. Then as to whether it's an improvement, people can make up their own minds and express their own views...
Tim Gillett wrote: ↑Tue Jun 06, 2023 3:15 pm
I plan to upload a video to YT with the EQ change(s) toggled in and out. Then as to whether it's an improvement, people can make up their own minds and express their own views...
MegaBacher wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 9:50 pm
1st - C-Vox Noise Reduction Plugin
2nd - SPL Transient Designer
3rd - Fabfilter Pro Q3 Equalizer set to a high-Q dynamic response on that resonant freq.
4th - Voxengo's TEOTE set to mastering, fluid response and flat EQ.
Just following the logic of that chain. Sounds rather smart! Sort of DIY soothe
What’s the TEOTE doing in the chain? I’m not familiar with that plugin
Voxengo's TEOTE is a paid native dynamic EQ plugin, mainly for mastering use. You set the amount of EQ bands you want to use (up to 64) between the freqs you want to correct, and the plugin will either push or pull EQ on bands that need to be pushed or pulled. The acronym stands for "That's Easy on the Ears" and it's made to be used in a subtle manner to correct mild EQ issues.
