Melodyne remove fret noise I can hear but can't see

[unclejemima]

Hello! I'm on the trial version of Melodyne 5. First time user and loving it. I'm running it standalone and I've been reading/hearing about this amazing software for years but never actually bucked down and tried it.

Right now one of the things I'm playing with is trying to remove fret noise from a single guitar track. It's kind of a finger picking style in this track that Melodyne seems to pick up very easily.

I watched a few tutorials on reducing fret noise but I'm having trouble with mine.

My question is (see screenshot below)
-Circled in the green area is contains a blob/note, and at the tail end of that note/blog is the start of a fret noise as the guitar player slides to the next note (circled in black)
-The fret noise is really inside the area marked in blue.
-The fret noise starts in the area marked in red.
-I'm unable to delete the fret noise or remove it because no matter what I delete...the majority of the fret noise is really inside of the blue area where Melodyne detects no notes/blob.

Any tips on how to handle this? If I don't see a blob but hear a noise...what can I do to modify the noise in the area where nothing was detected?

Screenshot here (i wasn't sure how to link the image without it being a turkey !)



https://freeimage.host/i/H8zowX9

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[James Perrett]

It might be worth trying a demo of Izotope RX. While the full RX includes automatic tools for this sort of thing, it would be worth trying the basic spectral editor because you can buy RX Elements for $29 from somewhere most of the time which includes the spectral editor as well as a few other tools.

[ilikebarmouth]

Yeah, you can remove fret noise with RX3. Trying to do it with Melodyne is gonna be a nightmare.

[muzines]

Melodyne is really about fixing/changing tuning, and a bit of timing - it's not intended as a general purpose audio editor. So I would say use Melodyne for it's intended use, and use other tools for doing other editing to the audio.

Melodyne is looking for notes, which is why fret noise isn't shown between the detected notes - hence you can do anything with that it, editing-wise.

If you want to just chop off the fret noise from the end of a note, you can split the note with the split tool, then delete the part that contains fret noise (or leave it but reduce it's volume), but really, other tools can handle this better.

[The Elf]

As above, RX is the answer. I'm doing acoustic guitar fret noise removal every week and it's the tool I turn to, with excellent results.

[Sam Inglis]

Melodyne 5 has a Sibilant Balance tool which can globally reduce the level of all non-pitched elements in the sound. Have you tried that?

[unclejemima]

Thanks guys. Sounds like Izotope RX is the best choice.

you can buy RX Elements for $29 from somewhere most of the time

Cheapest I can find it looks to be $64.50 USD on the izotope website if you really go looking... Is this the best deal available on this right now?
https://www.izotope.com/en/shop/rx-10-elements.html

As above, RX is the answer. I'm doing acoustic guitar fret noise removal every week and it's the tool I turn to, with excellent results.

What tool do you find works best in RX Elements for fret noise removal?
-De-ess?
-De-click?
-De-Noise?

Let me know

[James Perrett]

It looks like Izotope are only doing the offer for educational institutes and students right now but I'm sure you'll find it cheaper if you wait a few days. Plug-in Boutique is often a source of cheap deals - even when Izotope themselves don't have it on offer.

With the Essential version I would use the spectral editor to manually remove the squeaks. With a little practice you should be able to easily see the squeaks, just highlight them and then hit the delete key (or reduce the volume if you don't want to lose them completely).

If you buy RX Essential, after a while you will probably find that Izotope send you a good offer on an upgrade to RX Standard which contains Guitar De-noise. Guitar De-noise should automatically remove unwanted sounds from a guitar track.

[The Elf]

As above, RX is the answer. I'm doing acoustic guitar fret noise removal every week and it's the tool I turn to, with excellent results.

What tool do you find works best in RX Elements for fret noise removal?
-De-ess?
-De-click?
-De-Noise?

Let me know

I use RX Advanced, not Elements. And I'm afraid mine is a manual process, finding the squeaks, highlighting them and their harmonics, then reducing them in level. None of the automatic processes work very well IMHO.

[ore_terra]

As above, RX is the answer. I'm doing acoustic guitar fret noise removal every week and it's the tool I turn to, with excellent results.

What tool do you find works best in RX Elements for fret noise removal?
-De-ess?
-De-click?
-De-Noise?

Let me know

I use RX Advanced, not Elements. And I'm afraid mine is a manual process, finding the squeaks, highlighting them and their harmonics, then reducing them in level. None of the automatic processes work very well IMHO.

Cant you do the same with Spectralayers?

[The Elf]

As above, RX is the answer. I'm doing acoustic guitar fret noise removal every week and it's the tool I turn to, with excellent results.

What tool do you find works best in RX Elements for fret noise removal?
-De-ess?
-De-click?
-De-Noise?

Let me know

I use RX Advanced, not Elements. And I'm afraid mine is a manual process, finding the squeaks, highlighting them and their harmonics, then reducing them in level. None of the automatic processes work very well IMHO.

Cant you do the same with Spectralayers?

Don't know. Can you?

[unclejemima]

Ohhh. Ok I just thought of something I did not ask...

I was hoping to run this as a standalone editor...it looks like if I want to run this standalone then the Elements version won't work...I'll have to get at minimum the RX10 Advanced.

Am I understanding this correctly?

Here's where I found my info...

https://support.izotope.com/hc/en-us/ar ... dio-Editor

[James Perrett]

Am I understanding this correctly?

You are right that they no longer seem to include the editor with Elements (it was included in the version that I bought) but that page does say that it is included with the Standard version.

In that case may I also suggest looking at Acon Acoustica which is cheaper than RX Standard but also includes spectral editing. Download the demo and see if it works for you.

[RichardT]

I have RX9 standard and I can run that standalone.

[Drew Stephenson]

RX7 Elements runs standalone so it's obviously something they've removed in the later versions. But they have added additional tools so that doesn't seem unreasonable.

[unclejemima]

Thanks all.

I'm going to try this trial on RX10 and see what it's like. If it works, then I suppose I have to get the standard version. It looks like something I'd use quite often and then it will be worth it!

Thanks,

[ore_terra]

Cant you do the same with Spectralayers?

Don't know. Can you?

This question wasn’t meant to sound that random… I asked you Mr. Elf as Cubase Pro user. So far I have only used the in built Spectralayer version to rebalance bleed in vocal mics, but I’m sure you can do that too.

And I just wondered why you, as fellow Cubase believer, were using RX instead of the very convenient Spectralayer extension

[The Elf]

Cant you do the same with Spectralayers?

Don't know. Can you?

This question wasn’t meant to sound that random… I asked you Mr. Elf as Cubase Pro user. So far I have only used the in built Spectralayer version to rebalance bleed in vocal mics, but I’m sure you can do that too.

And I just wondered why you, as fellow Cubase believer, were using RX instead of the very convenient Spectralayer extension

RX is powerful and easy to use. Spectralayers is clunky and pretty limited in comparison. It also is even more limited in its free version. I'm not aware of it having the facility to zone in on fret squeaks, let alone have the squeak's harmonics automatically selected - this latter feature is the main reason I use RX.

[ken long]

Late to this but I've dampened fret noise using Wavelab Pro before but any spectral editor should be able to do this. Wavelab Pro currently 40% off over at Steinberg until the end of the month. The Elements version does not have the spectrum view AFAIK.