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How can I connect UAD-2 Satellite FW on My MacBook Pro?

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Hello, I'm using 2019 16'' MacBook Pro (intel), and I'd like to purchase pre-owned UAD-2 Satellite FW.
Which one is correct way to connect with it? FW to USB-A or FW to USB-C or FW to TB3?
Has anyone used UAD-2 Satellite FW like this?
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You'll need a Thunderbolt to FW adaptor, and make sure you don't upgrade to Ventura, which kills FW support.

If you only have USB-C ports, you'll need to go TB3 -> TB2 -> FW.
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muzines wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 3:35 pm You'll need a Thunderbolt to FW adaptor, and make sure you don't upgrade to Ventura, which kills FW support.

If you only have USB-C ports, you'll need to go TB3 -> TB2 -> FW.

Thanks for your advice, indeed!
What happened if I go with USB-A -> FW? It doesn't work?
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I’d get a TB2 Satellite as a bare minimum. Especially on a TB3/USB C Mac.
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Kevinology wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 4:07 pm What happened if I go with USB-A -> FW? It doesn't work?

I doubt that you'll find a USB-A to FW adaptor. The protocols are just too different.
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I think the title of the post might be better reading....."How can I bring myself a load of faffing about together with a flaky litany and perplexing problems"
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Kevinology wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 4:07 pm What happened if I go with USB-A -> FW? It doesn't work?

I have seen such adaptors sold on Amazon but buyers’ comments make it clear that they’re non functioning fakes. Caveat emptor!

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Kevinology wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 4:07 pm What happened if I go with USB-A -> FW? It doesn't work?

You can't go USB-A to FW.
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Post by tea for two »

Kevinology wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 10:30 am Hello, I'm using 2019 16'' MacBook Pro (intel), UAD-2 Satellite FW.

Presonus site says same as already advised on this thread.
https://answers.presonus.com/11483/fire ... on-macbook

UAD-2 Satellite FW would take same route to your usbC ports on your mbook.
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Kevinology wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 10:30 am Hello, I'm using 2019 16'' MacBook Pro (intel), and I'd like to purchase pre-owned UAD-2 Satellite FW.

If you haven't already purchased FW version, there's a
UAD-2 Satellite Thunderbolt Quad Core Grade B £280 in CeX currently, 2years warranty. Usually £725 GAK has it at £500 currently. Would save you some cable faff as it would be a single Thunderbolt adapter cable to your Thunderbolt usbC ports on your macbook.

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(I have purchased nearly all my audio gear from cex).
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OneWorld wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 4:42 pm I think the title of the post might be better reading....."How can I bring myself a load of faffing about together with a flaky litany and perplexing problems"

UAD have finally killed the archaic DSP faff. Sell the cards before they are worth zero.
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johnny h wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 8:59 am
OneWorld wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 4:42 pm I think the title of the post might be better reading....."How can I bring myself a load of faffing about together with a flaky litany and perplexing problems"

UAD have finally killed the archaic DSP faff. Sell the cards before they are worth zero.

Sage advice, I think that is going to be number 1 on my list of chores for today, after I've had a cuppa and a moan on here :clap:
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OneWorld wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 11:04 am
johnny h wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 8:59 am
OneWorld wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2023 4:42 pm I think the title of the post might be better reading....."How can I bring myself a load of faffing about together with a flaky litany and perplexing problems"

UAD have finally killed the archaic DSP faff. Sell the cards before they are worth zero.

Sage advice, I think that is going to be number 1 on my list of chores for today, after I've had a cuppa and a moan on here :clap:

Sorry guys this is not quite right. If you want to keep the UADx perpetual license, you got because you had the DSP version, you HAVE to have at least 1 HW device registered in your UA account with your DSP plugins registered to that, unless you pay for the Spark subscription. If you sell all your cards/interfaces you lose the perpetual licence. For example, I have a Quad USB, duo and solo. when UA finally bring out the 480L and Distressor native I will sell the Duo and Quad but will have to retain the solo to keep the perpetual native licenses. Annoying but there you go

https://uadforum.com/community/index.ph ... ard.59974/
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jaminem wrote: Tue Aug 01, 2023 5:33 pm Sorry guys this is not quite right. If you want to keep the UADx perpetual license, you got because you had the DSP version, you HAVE to have at least 1 HW device registered in your UA account with your DSP plugins registered to that, unless you pay for the Spark subscription. If you sell all your cards/interfaces you lose the perpetual licence.

I don't think this is quite right either.

My understanding is:-

You can't *buy* DSP plugins without an active DSP device in your account, for sure.

If you already have DSP plugin licenses, and you sell/transfer your DSP hardware (*without plugins*) you retain the plugin licenses (but can't use the DSP plugins, of course). And you can continue to use the native plugins, because if you own a DSP plugin and got a free native license (or if you bought a native plugin), you get an iLok license deposited into your iLok account, which is unrelated to the DSP hardware.

And if you later get a new DSP device, your DSP plugins can run on that once it's been registered to your account.

You also used to be able to sell your DSP device *with* all plugin licenses included in the sale, in which case you lose the licenses from your own account. I don't know whether this is still an option without checking UA support, especially as the native licenses now cloud that issue (pun intended!)

(I just checked, and this is still an option - sell/transfer a card with, or without, all plugins.)

And if you are doing this - selling a card *with all your plugins* - you have to deactivate your iLok licenses *before* requesting the transfer of the DSP hardware, so UA can reclaim those iLok assets. So you don't get to keep those native licenses, which is to be expected.
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What a mess :crazy:
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Most importantly, UAD have not currently killed DSP, since only a relatively small number of their plug-ins are currently available in native form. It’s quite possible that some of them will never be native and even if they are, it may well take a few years until all are. With the current Apollo interfaces, DSP will always be necessary to record through UAD plug-ins. Whether or not this changes in future remains to be seen of course.
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