OEM software,is it licensed/legit,etc

[Stephen Parker]

Hi there - firstly - this site is selling cracks for definate - the price is too low to be legitimate, you can only download full versions of NI software direct from their site, and products such as Kontakt (full version) would not be available as an OEM.

OEM products are almost always 'cut down' versions, so you'd have something like Kontakt Player, or Cubase LE etc etc.

The short version is, if it looks too good to be true, it almost certainly is.

The point made later on about edu software is a good one - it's likely now that most software has an education version available although you will need to check the different manufacturers requirements before purchasing.

Cheers

Steve Parker
Music Technology Manager
Arbiter Group

[crofter]

Another point , if not already mentioned, Would you give your credit card details to these people?, dodgy in the extreme.

[t724]

Hi all, I am in a similat situation with the poster,
I want to buy Windows XP SP3 OEM for £77(inclu. Vat & delivery) from here:
http://digital-sunrise.co.uk/index.php?crn=205&rn=405&action=show_detail

But I'm not sure if it's a cut-down version or trustable source. Although it does have a Verisign Secure certificate .
Is this a good idea?

[hugol]

Oh come do engage your brains chaps! £77 is a fairly small reduction off the normal price and it's normal to be able to buy OEM copies of Windows. It's a bit different to selling packages costing hundreds for peanuts.

[t724]

lol, okay fair enough the price aint bad, but my concern was to do with the site design (or lack of it) and the fact that I am not precisely sure what an OEM is.
Here's what I need to use the OS for.

I ordered a PC with XP 64-bit installed (to take advantage of my i7 mobo w/ 6gb memory). But I want to configure a dual boot after reading threads in this forum, advising that music making should be kept on a seperate os from your internet connection.
Hence, XP32-bit would be the best choice all round, especially for music stability. My DAW builder wouldnt sell me a second os, so I myself need to buy one that can be installed on a clean drive (i.e. no windows pre-installed, therefore no upgrade disc, full os only).
Would this OS be appropriate?

P.S. sorry if this is off-topic to what the thread starter had in mind.

[Bertyjnr2]

Yes it's fine for that...

[comradec]

lol, okay fair enough the price aint bad, but my concern was to do with the site design (or lack of it) and the fact that I am not precisely sure what an OEM is.
Here's what I need to use the OS for.

One critical thing that's different about the website you've talking about and ones previously under discussion is that the vendor provides full contact details (postal, phone and fax), their company registration number and their VAT number.

And the price being offered isn't all that amazing anyway, though it's not bad either.

The suppliers discussed earlier were offered 90% discounts for products that didn't actually exist in the format being advertised.

[t724]

Hi all, I know this is a very late post, but I went ahead and bought the XP Pro SP2 Dell-branded OEM,installed it on a non-Dell pc in dual boot configuration. Successful activation over internet, although since then I have disabled internet connection in order to keep XP Pro as my dedicated DAW. Couldn't be happier.

As an added bonus (feels that way to me anyway), they sent a free dell optical mouse which I use with my laptop instead of my annoyingly power-consuming wireless mouse.

Just thought I'd mention this for anyone who needed validation of Digital Sunrise as a trusted OEM distributor.

[comradec]

The fact that the software worked does not in itself demonstrate that it was legitimate as you can reinstall the same Windows XP disk quite a few times before questions are asked.

The dodgy thing about the dealer involved was its failure to provide proper contact details.

If your purchase hadn't worked what would you have been able to do about it?

[t724]

Okay, but it did ask me for activation and left a balloon in the system tray. I clicked it, then I followed through its instructions and activated online, then installed SP3. It's been nearly 30 days and no fuss. Surely its legit isnt it?

In regards to contacting Digital Sunrise, they contacted me to double check my phone number for security (When I ordered online, I gave a mobile number in stead of a landline). Only then did they dispatch the disc, their contact details are very very visible and legit as I called them back.

[Pete Kaine]

The free mouse is there because OEM copys have to be sold with hardware to be classed as OEM. The MS terms say main system componants so mouse is a bit out of a stretch but it's a technicality (and one most small suppliers don't pay attention to).

The fact that you bought a Dell branded one from a none dell supplier suggests that this is not a new key/disk through and resale of the software is prohibitied under agreement.

If the machine it was originally sold with has been scrapped then it should work fine as only that one will show up in the central database. If two systems show up with the same key in the MS database through you run a chance of having the WGA client block your system.

Just to clarify the way I read this is that you bought a copy which whilst being a legit copy it itself isn't 100% legal as the licence agreement stands and you do run the risk of having to explain yourself to MS at a later date.

[tea for two]

Hi all, I know this is a very late post, but I went ahead and bought the XP Pro SP2 Dell-branded OEM,installed it on a non-Dell pc in dual boot configuration. Successful activation over internet, although since then I have disabled internet connection in order to keep XP Pro as my dedicated DAW. Couldn't be happier.

As an added bonus, they sent a free dell optical mouse

Hi H

Glad it all isntalled fine.

However there are three issues :

1. to do with dell oem cds, 2. oem cds themselves, 3. m$ licensing (EULA)

1. Dell oem cds

Dell pc are rather useful for Installing oem dell xp os cds ...no cd key required, no activation required.
Its due to the a very slight imprint on the BIOS of mobos used in dell systems.
... if the dell oem cd is used on non dell pcs, a proper M$ activation is required.

2. OEM cds according to M$ EULA are meant to be installed only on a pc the cd came supplied with, and only on that pc.
M$ says It canNot be installed on anyother pc, unike a retail version which can be installed on any pc provided it is uninstalled first.

A mouse icluded whilst selling an oem cd is stretching the concept according to M$ EULA.
If you are buying the cd for a dell pc then its fine.

3. If you Dont have a dell pc, yet you have a M$ xp licence sticker on your dektop, laptop, or a valid xp licence,
it is fine to use the dell oem cd or any xp cd, as the sticker gurantees legitimacy & license, NOT the cd.

If you dont have a valid xp sticker nor licence, then you can use XP legitimately activated . .. its up to you ... only you will know about it

Whether i agree with M$ EULA for consumers (non corporate) is another matter.

[aviray]

2. OEM cds according to M$ EULA are meant to be installed only on a pc the cd came supplied with, and only on that pc.
M$ says It canNot be installed on anyother pc, unike a retail version which can be installed on any pc provided it is uninstalled first.

And that is absolutely illegal, at least in Germany, luckily Microsoft and Apple(they are more efficient at screwing customers ) cannot always do as they please, good to see my taxes are not wasted and the state act. . That is why there is so much of absolutely legal ways to buy OEM and Recovery MS products, form genuine registrated dealers in Germany. As mentioned in other thread, I found XP Pro for only 32 Euro, usually whatever XP they cost 40-70€.

[Pete Kaine]

Maybe in Germany but I think it's one of the few countys where it is.

The joy's of international copyright law diffrences.

[tea for two]

With you Avi

Whether i agree with M$ EULA for consumers (non corporate) is another matter.