How To make guitar Sound Like Hank Marvin the shadows in kontakt

[jambo7 tzq]

Hey
I'm looking for a sample\plugin for kontakt that simulates the shadows guitar.
Thanks

[Zukan]

We can't help you until you acquire the appropriate clothes, get the Hank haircut and upload said pics here. Once the panel gas approved your application we'll help.

It could have been worse. You might have asked for the the Van Halen plugin.

[Sam Spoons]

What do you mean, sample/plug in? A sample or a plugin fx chain that will make your guitar sound like Hanks?

[Wonks]

You'll probably have to do it with several plug-ins.

A clean Strat instrument sample set or VST, then a Watkins Copycat or Vox Domino multi-head tape delay sim (though any multi-head delay sim will get you very close), then a Vox AC15 or a Vox AC30 amp sim (depending on which era). And some reverb.

But so much depends on how well you can articulate the guitar sounds and gently bend the notes so it sounds just like a guitar trem. It's not a linear pitch deviation. And you'll need something with palm muted sounds as well as clean open notes.

[MarkOne]

Hank's sound was pretty unique.

He played a Stratocaster, through a Vox amp (AC15 or AC30) very clean sound.

He liked tape echo style delays for that snapback sound and then a spring reverb or another longer delay.

There are quite a few Strat libraries out there for Kontakt, and many amp sims and pedal emulations.

But, there is only one Hank, and his sound was a lot to do with the fact he always had hold of the tremolo arm. Every note pretty much was subject to is use of tremolo, so you'll need to be on the pitch bend wheel too.

Oops Wonks beat me to it!

[jambo7 tzq]

I'm looking for free or paid plugin \sample \preset

[FrankF]

Never mind all that plug-in malarkey: get yourself an old, old Alesis Quadraverb with the Shadows presets installed!

I actually have a Quadraverb, but sadly I don't have the Hank presets (twang, sniff).

[zenguitar]

That would be the Charlie Hall Echos From The Past EPROM for the Quadraverb.

Sure it was reviewed in SOS but can't find track it down.

A guitar tech who took over from me became very involved with the Shadows/Hank scene. In those circles it was reported that Hank was unhappy with his Vox amps and wanted a Fender. Due to the Vox endorsement deal he had to be seen using Vox but had a Fender amp built into the Vox cabinet.

Of course, as with all these legends it's hard to discover hard facts

Andy

[tea for two]

Zuke's spot on. Have to rush oooot for a pair of dark rimmed spectacles lol a colourful Hawaiian shirt from a charity thrift store.
Only thereafter are we ready.
I was fortunate I already had spectacles to hand as a spotty teen also colourful shirts lol.

I'm looking for free or paid plugin \sample \preset

Plugins4free have a few free Guitar emulations, amp and pedal emulations. Some of these are only for wind32.
https://plugins4free.com/search?term=Guitar

Free Guitar emulations wind64, osx :
https://plugins4free.com/plugin/3067/
https://plugins4free.com/plugin/3189/
https://plugins4free.com/plugin/2333/
https://plugins4free.com/plugin/2009/
https://plugins4free.com/plugin/3714/

I haven't used them so I don't know.
I'd suggest a MiDi keyboard that has decent single note aftertouch.

I searched for Hank Marvin app but there's only for foodie takeaways.

::

Apache and Ghost Riders in the Sky were the first Guitar parts I learnt to an extent as a spotty teen : on an acoustic doh. I can't recommend any better Electric Guitar pieces to learn clean technique.
Hank was is my first Guitar Hero.

[FrankF]

That would be the Charlie Hall Echos From The Past EPROM for the Quadraverb.

Sure it was reviewed in SOS but can't find track it down.

Andy

That's the one. I upgraded mine to a "Plus" back in the 90s, but I only heard about the Hank presets about 10 years ago.
Although, as others have said, it's more about HM's technique than his 50s slapback-with-reverb sound.

Blimey O'Riley! "Move It" was released in August 1958!
That was even before mono, I believe. ;-}

[tea for two]

Yup Charlie Halls Echoes.
Here's a cover played by Phil McGarrick of Hank's Guitar part on JmJarre's London Kid from 1988 album Revolutions.
Phil writes on the description :
"using my Alan Brason Stratocaster with Kinman FV-HMS pickups on bridge position.
Recorded using Alesis Quadraverb Q2 with Charlie Halls Echoes (EFTP) from the patch patch 0-36 (No Amp)
Into Cubase via Presonus AudioBox USB"
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DR5TKo8Ef ... Zpbg%3D%3D

Here's Paul White's review of the Q2.
https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/alesis-q2

[ef37a]

That would be the Charlie Hall Echos From The Past EPROM for the Quadraverb.

Sure it was reviewed in SOS but can't find track it down.

A guitar tech who took over from me became very involved with the Shadows/Hank scene. In those circles it was reported that Hank was unhappy with his Vox amps and wanted a Fender. Due to the Vox endorsement deal he had to be seen using Vox but had a Fender amp built into the Vox cabinet.

Of course, as with all these legends it's hard to discover hard facts

Andy

That would make some sense Andy. I never saw the Shads live but by all accounts they were 'king loud for the time? The AC30 is famed for being loud but more for an 'edgy onto breakup' sound. Not what Hank wanted. A pair of 6L6s* delivering 50W+ would stay clean for much more SPL than EL84s could manage.

*Plus the fact that reliability was of little import nor was money so they could have afforded to run the absolute blx off them and replace them every few gigs?

Dave.

[Arpangel]

Any decent (or not decent) delay will do this, anything, just a short slap-back, ad a bit of spring reverb.

[MortSahlFan]

I still use my Tascam, but I did do some AI cloning with voice and think that same concept would work on other instruments, wouldn't it? I had to isolate the best and cleanest vocals, avoiding harmonies, reverb, especially high frequencies you get from trumpets, etc.. And then I vocally cloned over 1,000 songs and most turned out fine.

[Wonks]

I still use my Tascam, but I did do some AI cloning with voice and think that same concept would work on other instruments, wouldn't it? I had to isolate the best and cleanest vocals, avoiding harmonies, reverb, especially high frequencies you get from trumpets, etc.. And then I vocally cloned over 1,000 songs and most turned out fine.

Did you reply to the right question?

[MortSahlFan]

I still use my Tascam, but I did do some AI cloning with voice and think that same concept would work on other instruments, wouldn't it? I had to isolate the best and cleanest vocals, avoiding harmonies, reverb, especially high frequencies you get from trumpets, etc.. And then I vocally cloned over 1,000 songs and most turned out fine.

Did you reply to the right question?

I think the same technique for vocal cloning can be used for guitar.

[paul tha other]

That would be the Charlie Hall Echos From The Past EPROM for the Quadraverb.

Sure it was reviewed in SOS but can't find track it down.

A guitar tech who took over from me became very involved with the Shadows/Hank scene. In those circles it was reported that Hank was unhappy with his Vox amps and wanted a Fender. Due to the Vox endorsement deal he had to be seen using Vox but had a Fender amp built into the Vox cabinet.

Of course, as with all these legends it's hard to discover hard facts

Andy

love stories like these...I heard Ritchie Blackmore had a similar tale..he was endorsed by Marshall but he like the fender bassman ,so he put a bassman inside a Marshall box..marshall still made a Ritchie Blackmore signature guitar amp but im certain it wasn't a bassman inside

[ef37a]

That would be the Charlie Hall Echos From The Past EPROM for the Quadraverb.

Sure it was reviewed in SOS but can't find track it down.

A guitar tech who took over from me became very involved with the Shadows/Hank scene. In those circles it was reported that Hank was unhappy with his Vox amps and wanted a Fender. Due to the Vox endorsement deal he had to be seen using Vox but had a Fender amp built into the Vox cabinet.

Of course, as with all these legends it's hard to discover hard facts

Andy

love stories like these...I heard Ritchie Blackmore had a similar tale..he was endorsed by Marshall but he like the fender bassman ,so he put a bassman inside a Marshall box..marshall still made a Ritchie Blackmore signature guitar amp but im certain it wasn't a bassman inside

Well, we have all seen the Marshall 4x12 "shells" in a backline on YT!

Dave.

[Sam Spoons]

Mostly they were accompanied by a low wattage amp miked up offstage. IIRC the early Marshalls were pretty much copies of a Fender Bassman.

[ef37a]

Mostly they were accompanied by a low wattage amp miked up offstage. IIRC the early Marshalls were pretty much copies of a Fender Bassman.

So I understand as well Sam. https://robrobinette.com/images/Guitar/ ... uehnel.pdf

The most interesting part of the above is the DC coupled second stage that drives the tone stack. Fender users probably never pushed the circuit into overload but when you do it produces some rather well liked harmonics. Dare we say "the beginning of the Marshall tone"?

The stage is analysed very closely by Merlin Blencowe in his book on guitar pre amps.

Dave.

[ceejay]

... move to Perth, Western Australia ... Hank did ...

[Sam Spoons]

And since he did his guitar sounds like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZUV46UlCU4