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Blue Baby Bottle microphone issue

Post by pchadwick »

I was gifted a Blue Baby Bottle condenser mic. I hooked it up to my laptop PC (Windows 10) using a 48V NEEWER NW-100 power supply.

The microphone shows up in the device list in Settings. The first time I tested the mic it worked in Audacity and Zoom.

However, now I can't get it to work. It's still showing up in devices but it doesn't register when I speak into the mic. Not sure why it would just stop working.

Does anyone have a suggestion?
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Re: Blue Baby Bottle microphone issue

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How are you getting the signal into the computer?
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Re: Blue Baby Bottle microphone issue

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That's my question as well. Normally you'd use an audio interface of some kind which, as an extra benefit, would also provide phantom power so you wouldn't need the NW-100. I used to own a Blue Baby Bottle, nice mics.

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Re: Blue Baby Bottle microphone issue

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As it stands it doesn't add up. An adapter lead between the Neewer and the computer's onboard mic input would probably work but the mic wouldn't appear on the devices list except maybe as an 'external mic' in the sound options?

Much more info required.
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Re: Blue Baby Bottle microphone issue

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pchadwick wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 6:07 am I was gifted a Blue Baby Bottle condenser mic. I hooked it up to my laptop PC (Windows 10) using a 48V NEEWER NW-100 power supply.

This device is just a power supply. It doesn't interface with the laptop... To figure out why you're apparently no longer getting signal we need to know what connected the NW100 to the laptop because that's undoubtedly where the problem lies!
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Re: Blue Baby Bottle microphone issue

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An XLR cable goes from the mic to the NEEWER power supply, then another cable from the XLR port on the power supply to a USB port on my laptop. I also have a cable going from the power supply's DC 5V port to another USB port on my laptop to get power to the power supply. Hope that makes sense.

It just seems odd that it worked for a day and then stopped without me changing anything.

Here's a photo of the setup: https://visions-voices.org/wp-content/u ... scaled.jpg
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Re: Blue Baby Bottle microphone issue

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pchadwick wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:15 pmthen another cable from the XLR port on the power supply to a USB port on my laptop.

OK, so this is the likely culprit, or rather, how your laptop is seeing it. This cable is acting as an audio interface, so check that your laptop is actually set to use this as the input and not the built in soundcard.
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Re: Blue Baby Bottle microphone issue

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Thanks for your responses. I just tried an old condenser mic. All I did was unplug the XLR from the Blue and plugged it into the old mic. I am getting sound recording from the old mic.

Which makes it seem like it's the Blue mic. But I've already gotten a replacement mic from Blue. Both the Blue mics had this problem where they worked once then stopped.
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Re: Blue Baby Bottle microphone issue

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OK, yes that points the finger firmly at the mic. Do you have any other gear you can test it with to double check?
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Re: Blue Baby Bottle microphone issue

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Bizarre that two new mics exhibited the same problem.

Very long shot but does the NEEWER auto power down in any circumstances?
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Re: Blue Baby Bottle microphone issue

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pchadwick wrote: Mon Apr 22, 2024 7:15 pm I also have a cable going from the power supply's DC 5V port to another USB port on my laptop to get power to the power supply.

I would suspect this is the issue.

In all the NW-100 images I've seen, the power supply is marked as an 18VAC, and I gather a mains-powered wall-wart is provided for the purpose. This seems a reasonable starting point for generating 48V DC phantom power.

While it is certainly possible to have a DC-DC converter to create 48V from 5V, this seems less likely to me... so are you certain of the powering arrangements.

I have seen some similar products that can be powered from a USB 5V supply... and if yours is of that variation, perhaps the laptop is not capable of providing it with enough power. Can you try another source of USB 5V?

Alternatively, it might be that your new mic needs more phantom power current than the power supply can deliver. Does the mic have any specs regarding phantom current?
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Re: Blue Baby Bottle microphone issue

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So the USB is only providing power, it is not an audio interface? I would guess that the reason it "worked for a while" was that the audio was being recorded via the laptop's onboard mic. Seeing as there is no audio connection from the Blue mic to the laptop.
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Re: Blue Baby Bottle microphone issue

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I had the impression the audio went via an XLR to USB cable with a biilt-in ADC — the lumpy lead in the photo.
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Re: Blue Baby Bottle microphone issue

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Hugh Robjohns wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:47 pm I had the impression the audio went via an XLR to USB cable with a biilt-in ADC — the lumpy lead in the photo.

OK so that cable is the thing that shows up on the computer, since it is essentially an audio interface. If that is not showing up that is the problem, not the Blue mic? Hopefully... we don't want more than one problem :)
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Re: Blue Baby Bottle microphone issue

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Tomás Mulcahy wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:04 pm
Hugh Robjohns wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:47 pm I had the impression the audio went via an XLR to USB cable with a biilt-in ADC — the lumpy lead in the photo.

OK so that cable is the thing that shows up on the computer, since it is essentially an audio interface. If that is not showing up that is the problem, not the Blue mic? Hopefully... we don't want more than one problem :)

Swapping the other mic in suggests that the ADC is still working ok, it might be as Hugh suggests that the power supply is not able to provide enough oomph to keep the Blue going but the other mic draws a lower current.
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Re: Blue Baby Bottle microphone issue

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Drew Stephenson wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 9:25 pm
Tomás Mulcahy wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 8:04 pm
Hugh Robjohns wrote: Tue Apr 23, 2024 7:47 pm I had the impression the audio went via an XLR to USB cable with a biilt-in ADC — the lumpy lead in the photo.

OK so that cable is the thing that shows up on the computer, since it is essentially an audio interface. If that is not showing up that is the problem, not the Blue mic? Hopefully... we don't want more than one problem :)

Swapping the other mic in suggests that the ADC is still working ok, it might be as Hugh suggests that the power supply is not able to provide enough oomph to keep the Blue going but the other mic draws a lower current.

Ah my mistake. That makes more sense. I got confused between "register" and "show up"- was worrying about a presentation at the time :headbang:
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Re: Blue Baby Bottle microphone issue

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I appreciate all the suggestions and attempts at figuring out the issue. The Blue mic says it needs 48v power and the Neewer power supply is 48V.

I switched the Neewer power cable (that plugs into a port labeled DC 5V) from a USB port on my laptop to a USB plug that's plugged directly into a wall outlet, but that didn't solve the problem.

Not sure why it wouldn't work, but maybe I should try a different power supply? There's one that's labeled DC 18V and the cable goes directly to the wall outlet without using a USB connection.
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Re: Blue Baby Bottle microphone issue

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I think that’s your next step. As said above, the 5V supply may not provide sufficient current for the Blue mic. Only one way to find out.
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Youv'e got a good mic, get a decent interface.
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Re: Blue Baby Bottle microphone issue

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pchadwick wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2024 4:30 am I appreciate all the suggestions and attempts at figuring out the issue. The Blue mic says it needs 48v power and the Neewer power supply is 48V.

That's the voltage, but the actual power drawn depends on the current as well (P=VI) and some mics require a higher current than others.

You have checked that something in Windows isn't defaulting to the onboard soundcard haven't you? I'm just wondering if the power up cycle is getting the computer to recognise the external interface (cable) but then it's forgetting later on.
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But OP doesn’t have the problem when using a different mic? So unlikely to be Windows, much as I hate to say it :lol:
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