Scalloped fretboards. - uurgghhh

[BWC]

Before he goes into Far Beyond The Sun, he plays Albinoni -- Adagio in G Minor. There is something before Albinoni. I don't know what it is. Anyone?

Yes, a restatement of the Albinoni that he recorded on the start of another tune from the same album as Far Beyond The Sun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YluYl4eOjBc I don't know about the bit on the front of that, either, but it is familiar.

All roads lead to picking technique ...

Well... You brought up Yngwie! What are we supposed to talk about? His hairstyle? I know, I know, scallops, but I couldn't help noticing those thumb knuckles workin'.

I think when he's using his knuckles he's sweeping

Nope, that's not what I'm talking about. Look at the run up at about 1:18, for example.

i.e. using consecutive downstrokes to cross strings going upwards in pitch (towards the floor).

[merlyn]

There's what is played and how it's played. On another thread @Johnsy brought up pickslanting. Malmsteen uses downward pickslanting, which means the point of the pick is higher (towards the ceiling) than the grip of the pick. Eric Johnson also uses downward pickslanting. Eric and Yngwie are the same guitarist, only Yngwie uses harmonic minors and Eric uses pentatonics. In contrast, John McLaughlin uses upward pickslanting.

There is a case that how these guys play is determining what they play.

[BWC]

There is something before Albinoni. I don't know what it is. Anyone?

I don't know about the bit on the front of that, either, but it is familiar.

OK, I do know that. ...and it's bugging me now. What is it?

[merlyn]

Is it a bastardised version of Vivaldi -- Violin Concerto in A Minor? (Fine for copyright -- it's public domain.)

[tea for two]

Nino Rota : Romeo and Juliet love theme played on Radio 1 Our Tune by master Bates lol, Simon Bates.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=X3jTjURnP ... ZlIHRoZW1l
1968 Franco Zeffirelli filim.

[BWC]

Eric and Yngwie are the same guitarist, only Yngwie uses harmonic minors and Eric uses pentatonics.

There is a case that how these guys play is determining what they play.

There is also that I, usually, can only listen to a song or two before it gets a bit boring. Watching Yngwie trading with Vai & Satch on their G3 tour / DVD really reveals how limited Yngwie's "vocabulary" is.

While looking for a clip to support that statement, YT gave me something better to listen to instead, so... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXWCj7M3N0M

[BWC]

Is it a bastardised version of Vivaldi -- Violin Concerto in A Minor? (Fine for copyright -- it's public domain.)

Both that live intro bit, and the Icarus thing, maybe? So, start Far Beyond... with the Albinoni that originally went on Icarus... but first, something else derived from the same Vivaldi that Icarus... was derived from?

[merlyn]

What we can say is that the really strong melodies weren't written by Malmsteen. The strong melodies come out of the dusty old bag of the classical repertoire.

[BWC]

Agreed!

[sonics]

Is it a bastardised version of Vivaldi -- Violin Concerto in A Minor? (Fine for copyright -- it's public domain.)

Good find. Malmsteen would know the Vivaldi, no doubt, but the very start reminds me of Zigeunerweisen by Sarasate.

[tea for two]

For me the greatest gift Guitar tunes in 20th century gave to World is the Riff.
Baroque Classical Romantic Impressionistic era from those I've heard the parts I can readily recall are their Riffs.

[garrettendi]

There's a guy in Germany on Reverb that takes Squier strats (among others) and scallops them.

I've wanted one for ages and it's my next guitar purchase lined up, as soon as Mrs Endi finally relents!

[merlyn]

Let us know how you get on. What is it you like about a scalloped fretboard? You realise a high fret job and a scalloped fretboard are pretty much the same thing?

[garrettendi]

Let us know how you get on. What is it you like about a scalloped fretboard? You realise a high fret job and a scalloped fretboard are pretty much the same thing?

I dunno... I just want to experience it, and given when it comes to frets I like em BIG, why not give it a go? This guy in Germany sells them for around 300 quid, depending on which model guitar you go for. He sells the guitars themselves, not just the scalloping job.

[Dynamic Mike]

Let us know how you get on. What is it you like about a scalloped fretboard? You realise a high fret job and a scalloped fretboard are pretty much the same thing?

I've often wondered what would happen if a fretboard was fitted (not the actual neck) sloped towards the bridge end, requiring each fret to be slightly higher as you moved away from the nut. I guess given Plek machining this would be achievable quite easily. Patent not pending if anyone wants to try it.

[Sam Spoons]

Or you could just raise the bridge and then dress/refret the frets to suit to achieve the same effect?

[Dynamic Mike]

You could but a tapered fretboard would be a marketable usp for gullible guitarists. Especially if it was a rosewood board on a maple neck. Preferably without a bound edge.

[Sam Spoons]

Clever

[merlyn]

You could but a tapered fretboard would be a marketable usp for gullible guitarists. Especially if it was a rosewood board on a maple neck. Preferably without a bound edge.

I like an ebony fretboard. Godin guitars had ebony fretboards, but due to controls around ebony, they now use 'richlite' which is some kind of epoxy. I haven't tried one. This also means a Les Paul is not an option for me, as the model with an ebony fretboard is the Custom, which is pretty expensive.

[Dynamic Mike]

I understand why certain wood is subject to export/import restrictions but feel musical instruments should be given an exemption. Especially as some top shelf and boutique guitars are using wood from trees felled over 80 years ago. And if you take violins as an example might still be used a few hundred years into the future.

Apologies to any pianists but I wouldn't apply the same exemptions to ivory. Trees and elephants aren't the same thing.

[Wonks]

Apologies to any pianists but I wouldn't apply the same exemptions to ivory. Trees and elephants aren't the same thing.

But they both have trunks.

[Dynamic Mike]

Apologies to any pianists but I wouldn't apply the same exemptions to ivory. Trees and elephants aren't the same thing.

But they both have trunks.

[tea for two]

Did a quickie giggle search, afaik there's no curved raised frets on a Guitar as on a Sitar. I wonder whether it's been done. Would need to reduce the number of strings so as to not affect the other strings too much when bending a lot. Preehaps a 2 string Cigar box variation with curved raised frets.