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DF Audio Minibay v2

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DF Audio Minibay v2
40 Point Desktop Patch Bay


Looking for a way to extend flexibility with your effects pedals? The Minibay could open a new world of creative exploration.

Patching Your Creativity

The humble patch bay has been a staple of recording studios ever since someone figured out a patch bay was a simple and flexible way of connecting all your gear without having to fossic behind impossibly inaccessible panels! A logical but not exactly gear-lust inducing solution to a problem.

Doesn’t sound like much fun, that is until now - enter the DF Audio Minibay. I came across the Minibay quite by accident. Whilst I have a couple of semi-modular synths in the form of two Moog Mother 32s, I’ve never been particularly into the Eurorack world. Having said that, I like to have my synths, which also include a Sequential Take 5 and a Volca Kick, along with my effects pedals set up and ready to go. But, if I want to re-patch different synths to different pedals, I have the old fossic round the back problem. What’s more, I’ve been thinking I’d like to use my effects pedals on tracks recorded in the DAW, and in addition, it also seems a waste not to use them when recording acoustic instruments.

In a light bulb moment I searched to see if there was such a thing as a Eurorack style patch bay. There is and it solved my problems instantly and in a fun way!

40 Points of Creativity

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The DT Audio Minibay is a 40 point desktop patchbay built in a solid pressed steel case with all connectors surface mounted and made of metal. Designed in Australia and manufactured in Thailand it’s not much bigger than a large effects pedal measuring 234mm x 140mm x 40mm. It’s a passive device so as expected does not affect the signal quality at all. It connects to the outside world using standard TRS 6.35mm connectors on the back and all the patching is done on the top surface using standard Eurorack patch cables.

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You could configure the Minibay any which way you like as each input on the back corresponds to a pair of patch points on the top, but DF Audio have helped things along by designing a sensible layout ready to use. The top row consists of 8 mono FX patch points. I wired the connecting rear cables so that the effects sends were on the top row and the returns on the bottom.

The next two rows have 12 patch points marked A1 to A12, directly above 12 patch points marked B1 to B12. A logical way to use these is to have your inputs from instruments on the A layer and outputs to your DAW or mixer on the B layer. Each A/B combo can be ‘normalled’, which means that each ‘A’ patch point is connected internally to its corresponding ‘B’ patch point without the need for patch cables. However, as soon as a patch cable is inserted into either the A or B patch point the direct (internal) connection is broken. This is handy in that I, for example, have the Take 5 normalled to input channels 5 and 6 on the DAW, and it’ll play without any patching. But if I want to insert an effects pedal between the Take 5 and my DAW, I patch in the effects using patch cables. The A/B normalising is switchable and there’s a series of DIP switches under a screwed in panel mid-right of the surface.

It’s important to note that stereo devices take up two patch channels and likewise, if you’re running your effects pedals in stereo, your effects channels drop down from 8 to 4. Having said that, there’s nothing to suggest you can’t ‘rob’ some of the A/B row patch points for effects pedals if you have spares.

Additionally there’s two channels of passive mixing each with 3 inputs (top right) which adds even further flexibility.

Example of Use

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To give you an example, here’s how I’ve patched it for the above set up:

FX1 and FX2 - Soma Cosmos (Stereo)
FX3 and FX4 - Source Audio Collider (Stereo)
FX5 and FX6 - Source Audio Nemesis Delay going into a UAD Golden Reverb (Stereo)
FX7 and FX8 - EHX 720 Looper (Stereo or two mono channels)

A1/A2 - Sequential Take 5 (stereo)
A3/A4 - Moog M32 (mono but wired to both channels)
A5/A6 - Moog M32 (mono but wired to both channels)
A7/A8 - Korg Volca Kick (mono but wired to both channels)
A9/A10 - Eventide Mixing Link Mic Preamp with Effects Send (mono but wired to both channels)
A11/A12 - Stereo output from DAW

B1/2 - Channels 5/6 into DAW (Input as Stereo L/R)
B3/4 - Channels 7/8 into DAW (Input as Dual Mono centre panned)

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Whilst the number of patching options with this set-up isn’t quite as great as the number of particles in the known universe, there’s certainly a lot on offer, especially when you think that the mono synths are essentially split into dual mono, meaning they can be sent to different effects configurations at the same time and that various signals can be summed before sending somewhere else.

So far it’s all been positive, so what are the downsides? Well one lesson I’ve learnt is that you have to put some planning thought into cabling and so I decided it would be easier to make a fresh set of cables to connect the gear to the Minibay. You can, however, use straight insert leads on the back panel, they would work fine, but when it came to connecting stereo effects units, I decided it would be tidier to make some bespoke cabling which had the two inputs on one twin cable and the two outputs on another, and that meant careful head-scratching about what happened at the patch panel end with clear labelling essential!

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Summary

In the short time I’ve had the Minibay, I’ve come to realise that it transforms what could be described as a vanilla utility unit into something which opens the door to extensive creative exploration at your finger tips and as such, ranks alongside any one synth or effects unit in my collection.

Highly recommended.

DF Audio https://dfaudio.com.au/
Available in the UK from Juno £169.99

(I wrote this review following a request after a 'show and tell' at one of our fortnightly virtual SOS meets.)

Bob
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Re: DF Audio Minibay v2

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Amazing Bob, that's a god send.
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Re: DF Audio Minibay v2

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Thought you might be interested :thumbup:

It really is a creative revelation......... While I think of it, have you tried the Soma Cosmos? I love it - wonderful for creating textural evolving soundscapes.

Oh and I really liked your new album - but I'll remark about that under it's thread.

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Re: DF Audio Minibay v2

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I can see it would be useful for a desktop system, space permitting. It's definitely filling a niche, and that niche would probably prefer desktop form, though personally I'd want it to rack.

A touch pricey, IMHO. If were under £100 it would find a lot of friends.

A patchbay is almost always a good idea, and a liberating creative aid, if set up properly.

Good find! :thumbup:
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Nice one, Bob, a very useful review. And a very tidy setup :thumbup:

"fossic" - is that a New Zealand word? I get the meaning, but I've never heard it before. :D
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Well I found fossic, correct spelling apparently fossick, in the back of my head, but without knowing, yes, it’s Australian/New Zealand slang! Original use, searching for elusive gold……..

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That's a nice word. Mrs B has a crafter's term 'shoggle', which means to to shake or move something around until it fits or is in the right place.
A new vocabulary for the studio :D
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In my radio-TV days we had a term 'broggle'. One used a broggling iron for adjusting (broggling) all the tiny trimmers and dust cores on TVs and radios to get them properly aligned.

Needless to say, they weren't made of iron - usually plastic, sometimes with a thin brass/copper blade.
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Folderol wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2024 2:28 pm In my radio-TV days we had a term 'broggle'. One used a broggling iron for adjusting (broggling) all the tiny trimmers and dust cores on TVs and radios to get them properly aligned.

Needless to say, they weren't made of iron - usually plastic, sometimes with a thin brass/copper blade.

We used to call those twiddles.

One end with a flat blade to adjust the ‘twiddle pots’
The other with a hex plastic end to adjust ferrite cores or aluminium cores. Top tip, when the plastic hex end got rounded off, we used to put an aluminium core on the end of a soldering iron and snip off the rounded end and reform a new end by pushing it into the hot core. No, of course the pvc smoke wasn’t dangerous*. (No more so than the open boiling tank of Arklone trichlorotrifluoroethane we used to clean circuit boards!!!!!)

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Re: DF Audio Minibay v2

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Bob Bickerton wrote: Sun Aug 11, 2024 10:00 am Thought you might be interested :thumbup:

It really is a creative revelation......... While I think of it, have you tried the Soma Cosmos? I love it - wonderful for creating textural evolving soundscapes.

Oh and I really liked your new album - but I'll remark about that under it's thread.

Bob

That Cosmos looks good I'll check one out ASAP. Still thinking about that Elta Solar 42, but it's more money.
Glad you liked the album Bob, it all keeps me going.

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Arpangel wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 8:49 am
That Cosmos looks good I'll check one out ASAP. Still thinking about that Elta Solar 42, but it's more money.

Not familiar with the Solar 42, the Cosmos is fascinating. Check out this track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p72FgV ... Mc&index=2

OK, it's a meditative track, and perhaps not your cup of rosy lea, but you can hear to some degree what the potential of the Cosmos is. There's also variations on the firmware too, so not so much upgrades, each firmware gives you a different pedal!

Arpangel wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 8:49 am Glad you liked the album Bob, it all keeps me going.
:thumbup:

Keep going anyway........ good comments, bad comments, they're all the same......... do it for yourself :thumbup:

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Re: DF Audio Minibay v2

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Bob Bickerton wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 11:01 am
Arpangel wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 8:49 am
That Cosmos looks good I'll check one out ASAP. Still thinking about that Elta Solar 42, but it's more money.

Not familiar with the Solar 42, the Cosmos is fascinating. Check out this track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p72FgV ... Mc&index=2

OK, it's a meditative track, and perhaps not your cup of rosy lea, but you can hear to some degree what the potential of the Cosmos is. There's also variations on the firmware too, so not so much upgrades, each firmware gives you a different pedal!

Arpangel wrote: Mon Aug 12, 2024 8:49 am Glad you liked the album Bob, it all keeps me going.
:thumbup:

Keep going anyway........ good comments, bad comments, they're all the same......... do it for yourself :thumbup:

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Crumbs, that is truly beyond, again, acoustic sources triumph.
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Potentially my moods can take me anywhere musically.
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As usual, none anywhere, hardly a "Swarm"

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I got mine from Thomann and they appear to be in stock in the UK: https://www.thomann.co.uk/search_dir.ht ... 393f9_2630

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Bob Bickerton wrote: Tue Aug 13, 2024 11:31 am I got mine from Thomann and they appear to be in stock in the UK: https://www.thomann.co.uk/search_dir.ht ... 393f9_2630

Bob

Thank's Bob, I've got two things going around in my head and I’m getting confused, the Cosmos, and the "Swarm"
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Tricky...

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Bob Bickerton wrote: Wed Aug 14, 2024 10:17 am Tricky...

Bob

Yes, but I think the Cosmos may be more useful to me.
BTW Bob, that's a cool set-up you’ve got there, very cool.
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