UA Galaxy

[Arpangel]

I'm getting one of these, honestly, this has to be the best tape delay emulator I’ve ever heard, it’s beautiful.
When I get it I’ll post a review, but I know it's going to be amazing.

https://www.uaudio.com/products/galaxy ... 2oy9d_RgRL

[Wonks]

I'm rather wary of UA pedals since buying their 1176 pedal. Covering both guitar and line input signals, it lacked sufficient gain to make it work with a Telecaster. It needed a range switch to adjust sensitivities.

Paul White's SOS review totally failed to mention this shortcoming.

Arpy, you'll be using the Galaxy with keys, so won't have a problem with signal level, but I wonder if lower output guitars will get the best from it?

[Arpangel]

I'm rather wary of UA pedals since buying their 1176 pedal. Covering both guitar and line input signals, it lacked sufficient gain to make it work with a Telecaster. It needed a range switch to adjust sensitivities.

Paul White's SOS review totally failed to mention this shortcoming.

Arpy, you'll be using the Galaxy with keys, so won't have a problem with signal level, but I wonder if lower output guitars will get the best from it?

Good point, it’s a guitar pedal, primarily, so hopefully they’ll get it right.

[Bob Bickerton]

I have the UA Orion Pedal permanently on the output of an MS-20 (along with
the La-2a pedal) and I really like it. It’s mono only and I believe it’s more of an EP-34 emulation.

Bob

[hz37]

I'm getting one of these, honestly, this has to be the best tape delay emulator I’ve ever heard, it’s beautiful.

Enjoy your new pedal and do let us know how you like it!

Hens

[Matt Houghton]

Paul White's SOS review totally failed to mention this shortcoming.

Thanks for the feedback Wonks, which I shall of course pass on. (But I'm not at all surprised that Paul White failed to mention it, given that it wasn't he who wrote the SOS review )

https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/un ... afx-pedals

[Martin Walker]

I have the UA Orion Pedal permanently on the output of an MS-20 (along with
the La-2a pedal) and I really like it. It’s mono only and I believe it’s more of an EP-34 emulation.

Bob

...and it includes a knob labeled WONK, so it's bound to pass muster with our rabbit-loving friend

[Wonks]

Paul White's SOS review totally failed to mention this shortcoming.

Thanks for the feedback Wonks, which I shall of course pass on. (But I'm not at all surprised that Paul White failed to mention it, given that it wasn't he who wrote the SOS review )

https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/un ... afx-pedals

D'oh. Both right and very wrong at the same time. But in my defence, Paul normally does the pedal reviews.

I did mention the detail in my user review. https://www.soundonsound.com/forum/view ... hp?t=87849

Maybe if he only used humbuckers, it would be less noticeable to him. But with a standard Tele with vintage style pickups, I had to really strum really hard just to get the threshold exceeded light to come on with the gain turned up fully. Normal single notes didn't do anything. Only the 'sustain' mode (modelling two 1176s in series) actually gave a noticeable compression effect on my guitars, but in the two 'special' modes, you lose most of the adjustment facilities.

[ef37a]

I'm rather wary of UA pedals since buying their 1176 pedal. Covering both guitar and line input signals, it lacked sufficient gain to make it work with a Telecaster. It needed a range switch to adjust sensitivities.

Paul White's SOS review totally failed to mention this shortcoming.

Arpy, you'll be using the Galaxy with keys, so won't have a problem with signal level, but I wonder if lower output guitars will get the best from it?

I tried to find a specification that gave input sensitivity for that pedal Wonks but no joy. To be fair, no pedal makers seem to give a gain figure, not even my old firm but this rather tells me that UA have "dabbled" in an area where they don't have great expertise? A swift market check with a few hairy a'ed guitarists with some pre-prod' samples would have put 'em straight...."Yeah, sounds OK but a bit of a gutless ******!"

Dave.

[Wonks]

I expect the gain control value is exactly the same as in a real 1176, so around 45dB. But the 1176 has a fixed threshold (well, it varies slightly depending on the compression ratio selected, but fixed for that ratio), so unless the signal can be raised above that threshold, you don't get any compression/limiting occurring.

[ef37a]

I expect the gain control value is exactly the same as in a real 1176, so around 45dB. But the 1176 has a fixed threshold (well, it varies slightly depending on the compression ratio selected, but fixed for that ratio), so unless the signal can be raised above that threshold, you don't get any compression/limiting occurring.

The fact that what specifications there are https://help.uaudio.com/hc/en-us/articl ... 0BMA55B3TH are given in dBu tells me that they have not employed any "proper" guitar electronics people. They have always embraced the (far more modern and logical IMHO!) dBV reference.

Dave.

[Hugh Robjohns]

[Matt Houghton]

Paul White's SOS review totally failed to mention this shortcoming.

Thanks for the feedback Wonks, which I shall of course pass on. (But I'm not at all surprised that Paul White failed to mention it, given that it wasn't he who wrote the SOS review )

https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/un ... afx-pedals

D'oh. Both right and very wrong at the same time. But in my defence, Paul normally does the pedal reviews.

I did mention the detail in my user review. https://www.soundonsound.com/forum/view ... hp?t=87849

Maybe if he only used humbuckers, it would be less noticeable to him. But with a standard Tele with vintage style pickups, I had to really strum really hard just to get the threshold exceeded light to come on with the gain turned up fully. Normal single notes didn't do anything. Only the 'sustain' mode (modelling two 1176s in series) actually gave a noticeable compression effect on my guitars, but in the two 'special' modes, you lose most of the adjustment facilities.

As promised, I asked Dave about this. He still has this pedal so was able to test it with a Tele with vintage output pickups, connected directly to the pedal.

He says that with this setup he can get the gain-reduction LED into the red with the pedal's input gain only halfway up, and it even peaks red on single notes. He sent me a video demonstrating this too...

Is/was your unit not behaving in the same way? Or are we perhaps failing to understand the point you're making?

[Wonks]

No, mine wasn't behaving like that. With the input gain all the way up I could only get the compression light just blipping on if I hit the strings on a chord hard. Single notes did nothing.

Maybe it is a duff one, or had a wrong value component fitted on the input circuit. Otherwise it behaves as expected, but needs a strong signal to drive it.

Thanks you for asking Dave about it.

[ef37a]

No, mine wasn't behaving like that. With the input gain all the way up I could only get the compression light just blipping on if I hit the strings on a chord hard. Single notes did nothing.

Maybe it is a duff one, or had a wrong value component fitted on the input circuit. Otherwise it behaves as expected, but needs a strong signal to drive it.

Thanks you for asking Dave about it.

Looks as though you fell foul of a wrongly stuffed PCB Mr W?
'It'appen.

Dave.