AI - The workers who lost their jobs to AI

[Martin Walker]

Just published in the Guardian today:

From a radio host replaced by avatars to a comic artist whose drawings have been copied by Midjourney, how does it feel to be replaced by a bot?

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... ai-chatgpt

Nothing new here, but hopefully more features like this will incrementally change the tide of public opinion, by focusing on the human casualties in the creative world.

[RichardT]

Just published in the Guardian today:

From a radio host replaced by avatars to a comic artist whose drawings have been copied by Midjourney, how does it feel to be replaced by a bot?

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... ai-chatgpt

Nothing new here, but hopefully more features like this will incrementally change the tide of public opinion, by focusing on the human casualties in the creative world.

It’s going to be a tidal wave. Creatives, coders, analysts, journalists, scientists, drivers, admin staff - we need to understand that work is not valuable just because of what it produces, but also what it adds to the lives of the people involved.

It’s also this kind of dislocation, mostly from past events not involving AI, that is part of the reason why the extreme right is gaining traction.

[Watchmaker]

Just published in the Guardian today:

From a radio host replaced by avatars to a comic artist whose drawings have been copied by Midjourney, how does it feel to be replaced by a bot?

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... ai-chatgpt

Nothing new here, but hopefully more features like this will incrementally change the tide of public opinion, by focusing on the human casualties in the creative world.

It’s going to be a tidal wave. Creatives, coders, analysts, journalists, scientists, drivers, admin staff - we need to understand that work is not valuable just because of what it produces, but also what it adds to the lives of the people involved.

It’s also this kind of dislocation, mostly from past events not involving AI, that is part of the reason why the extreme right is gaining traction.

I totally agree with the conclusion that value isn't measured in dollars alone. Like Paul Simon said "mistaking value for the price"

At the risk of digressing a bit...by "Extreme Right", are you perhaps referring to what used to known as "centrists"? i.e. the people who just want a decent living and to not be preyed upon by narcissists and psychopaths?

There's a great movie called On the Waterfront with Karl Maldin and Marlon Brando about dock workers. Remember them? There used to be a entire class of workers, underpaid and abused, that no longer exists because of the advent of the simple container ship. Everyone thought it was great, except for the dockworkers. Why should musicians ("creatives") be exempt from the consequences of not acting to influence policy decisions? from the rebound concomitant with accepting narratives from sociopaths and the corrupt? The time to stand up was 40 years ago at least.

But it's only a model and models, like the flowers, go through times of blossom and decay. Most musicians throughout time have been unpaid. There was a time when getting paid as a professional musician or as support crew was an extremely rare thing. I believe it will be this way again. There were no riggers 100 years ago!

But the human need to create, to connect, cannot be extinguished by slight of hand, nor the latest wunderwaffen aka AI. New forms will evolve and those young enough to be at the forefront of that innovation will reap the harvest. I'm too old to participate, and old enough to see the dying of a sclerotic paradigm as the opportunity to remake the world anew... and to hell with AI.

[Arpangel]

It's not the workers who will benefit from AI, the age old myth that we'll all have a great time enjoying extra leisure time doesn’t work, for a start where are we supposed to get the money to enjoy all this extra leisure time? What actually happens is the technology gets rid of human beings and there’s major savings in labour, the owners get more profits that don’t filter down to the workers, who are no longer needed.
There are a lot of things in this world right now, locally, and globally, that need to be addressed if we are to avoid major conflicts, on a national and global level.
Direct action is needed, but there aren’t any people willing to take up the challenge, and for some reason, I think there is an underlying agenda to what’s going on right now, it's benefiting people somewhere, financially.
If something isn’t done about these issues soon, things are going to get very ugly, it’s just a question of when, not if.

[Matt Houghton]

Yeah, I read this one yesterday. Interesting and, while fairly predictable, it's good to see the media bringing the issues alive by showing the real impact on individuals across a range of creative professions.

It's not just creatives who will be affected, of course. Pretty much anyone doing anything that involves using digital tools will be, whether it involves words, pictures, diagrams, sounds, visuals, logic... This genie is very much out of the bottle, and I can't see legislation helping because it's a global thing and we've already seen with piracy, streaming etc. that people are generally fine with creatives being exploited — they might have sympathy but they still want cheap streaming, just like they want cheap clothes and electronic goods.

Some things you just can't recreate with AI though. Trades like carpentry, plumbing, electrics... they're safe, right? (Until the 3D-printed housing revolution... but even then maintenance and upgrades of physical things will require human judgement and skills.)

As someone whose income currently depends on their skills and experience with both music production and the written word, where next? Where does all this leave us?

Well... arguably music making is now bigger as a hobby than as a commercial activity. We enjoy making music. Nothing's going to change that. Some of us enjoy performing, or watching performances too. As long as we can make money somehow, even of outside of music, and can find the time to indulge our creative urge/passion, we're all good, right?

Maybe there'll be a backlash... people wanting music that sounds more human. More acoustic/natural, with real 'mistakes', less electronic or obviously manipulated... Who knows? The vinyl resurgence suggests a desire for tangible things and l, dare I say, 'authenticity'.

Or maybe it's time for me to go and retrain as a sparky...

[Arpangel]

just like they want cheap clothes and electronic goods.

People are greedy, and only think of themselves when it comes to buying anything, making "ethical" purchases don’t count for anything.
If the only way you can afford anything is to have it made in sweatshop’s by under age slave labour in dictatorships then you shouldn’t have it, simple as that. And those that can afford to do so should be prepared to pay more for better quality and better working conditions.
People are living under terrible conditions, just so that we can have cheap crap, things that don’t really matter, junk, tat, that uses up resources and pollutes the planet.
AI will be the final nail in the coffin for human labour, we think that some jobs will be immune, now, but give it ten years, and everything we thought was impossible to achieve with AI will come to pass. Jobs that require manual dexterity will be done by hybrid robots, that's that problem solved. To a business man human beings really are a pain in the arse.

[BigRedX]

My job should have disappeared years ago when graphics apps started adding more and more tools for the creatively challenged. However what I found was it gave humans even more possibilities to create designs that were unprintable, or at best gave very different results on paper to what they had been seeing on screen. As a result my skills (mostly based on over 40 years of experience) are very much still in demand.

Right now I'm working with the creative department of a fairly well-known company making sure that the wonderful Ideas they have come up with will be realised as accurately as possible when their packaging is printed. I'm sure that there will come a time when AI will be capable of doing what I do, but based on what I have seen so far, for me, it is definitely approaching the 80/20 threshold and further progress will be very slow. A lot of what I do is still incredibly subjective and solution that works for one client may be completely unacceptable for another and often dependant upon the whims of the marketing manger.

[OneWorld]

Yeah, I read this one yesterday. Interesting and, while fairly predictable, it's good to see the media bringing the issues alive by showing the real impact on individuals across a range of creative professions.

It's not just creatives who will be affected, of course. Pretty much anyone doing anything that involves using digital tools will be, whether it involves words, pictures, diagrams, sounds, visuals, logic... This genie is very much out of the bottle, and I can't see legislation helping because it's a global thing and we've already seen with piracy, streaming etc. that people are generally fine with creatives being exploited — they might have sympathy but they still want cheap streaming, just like they want cheap clothes and electronic goods.

Some things you just can't recreate with AI though. Trades like carpentry, plumbing, electrics... they're safe, right? (Until the 3D-printed housing revolution... but even then maintenance and upgrades of physical things will require human judgement and skills.)

As someone whose income currently depends on their skills and experience with both music production and the written word, where next? Where does all this leave us?

Well... arguably music making is now bigger as a hobby than as a commercial activity. We enjoy making music. Nothing's going to change that. Some of us enjoy performing, or watching performances too. As long as we can make money somehow, even of outside of music, and can find the time to indulge our creative urge/passion, we're all good, right?

Maybe there'll be a backlash... people wanting music that sounds more human. More acoustic/natural, with real 'mistakes', less electronic or obviously manipulated... Who knows? The vinyl resurgence suggests a desire for tangible things and l, dare I say, 'authenticity'.

Or maybe it's time for me to go and retrain as a sparky...

"..........Some things you just can't recreate with AI though. Trades like carpentry, plumbing, electrics... they're safe, right? (Until the 3D-printed housing revolution... but even then maintenance and upgrades of physical things will require human judgement and skills.)
"

The other night I was in the pub, reeling with shock after discovering my favourite tipples 'Old Tom' has risen in price yet again, it's £5.00 a bottle now, a year ago it was £3.74, so much for 3% eh, well I'd like to know where the chancellor knocks her pot if the pub she drinks in only adds 4% to the price of slopkettle each year.

Anyway, a neighbour has a blockage in the waste water pipes, to the extent it's overflowing eeewwwwwww. He was quoted £3000 to get it unblocked, after looking for other quotes he has been quoted £1000, yes considerably less, but still a large amount of money just to get a sewer pipe unblocked, and being told that unblocking won't fix the problem, it will only alleviate it.

"retrain as a sparky?" maybe a sewer pipe unblocker might be more lucrative, ok it's a shiddy job, but someone's got to do it. I can't see that career going down the drain because of AI

AI or no AI, there remains only 2 sorts of job, one where you dig holes in the road, or whatever other servile existence, and the other job is where you tell people where to dig a hole. The main difference is that one pays 10 times more than the other and telling people what to do means you have perceived transferable skills.

The more servile jobs tend to be less advantaged in that respect, and AI isn't going to change that, there's winners and losers in each and eery endeavour, but the success of the human range is down to adaptability, for some change is a challenge, for others it's an opportunity. We pays our money and we takes our chances.

[OneWorld]

Like it or not, AI is a new technology, well not that new actually, it's been around since the '50s, but we might as well embrace it - no matter what the issue, I never new anyone that could complain their way to happiness, contentment and success.

Where I do have a problem with it, in common with many other 'new' technologies, there are people raking in $billions bigging up technology knowing the great unwashed rarely read past the headlines and research the product and it's true worth. Facebook is a case in point, MySpace was already doing a grand job, but for some reason, Facebook got wall to wall media coverage, the news media carpet bombed us with all sorts of claims for it, reported as 'news' but essentially just a free advert, claiming it was 'taking over the world' or words to that effect, when in fact it did nothing, that wasn't being done already, $uckerberg must have been will connected to get all that free coverage, oh hang on, his father was a media mover and shaker. What they kept quite was that Facebook's origins were based on an extremely sexist premise - eg, rating women students........but yep, we went for it hook line and sinker.

For example, each time I start Firefox, I get a fresh screen opening extolling the virtues of Soloist.ai, and as it happens I am interested, but there is nothing on their web pages which actually convinces me of what it actually does that can't be done already, given a description, it chooses from a selection of templates, simple pattern matching. OK I suppose the 'intelligence' used is to select from a choice, that saves me the time of scrolling through lists of templates, a tedious process as anyone knows.

Has anyone used Solist.ai, or it's equivalent, is it any use? Or are we better just sticking with the various Soundclouds and/or equivalents. I am not too bothered about making an income from music, but that said I would like a place to archive it, make it easily accessible, and for now it seems YouTube does that job.

[OneWorld]

It's not the workers who will benefit from AI, the age old myth that we'll all have a great time enjoying extra leisure time doesn’t work, for a start where are we supposed to get the money to enjoy all this extra leisure time? What actually happens is the technology gets rid of human beings and there’s major savings in labour, the owners get more profits that don’t filter down to the workers, who are no longer needed.
There are a lot of things in this world right now, locally, and globally, that need to be addressed if we are to avoid major conflicts, on a national and global level.
Direct action is needed, but there aren’t any people willing to take up the challenge, and for some reason, I think there is an underlying agenda to what’s going on right now, it's benefiting people somewhere, financially.
If something isn’t done about these issues soon, things are going to get very ugly, it’s just a question of when, not if.

Every point you make is spot on, we are being lead on, the rich and powerful know that for the main part, we are benign, we see/read an alarmist headline and we are convinced by it.

Back in the day, 100,000s of jobs were lost in manufacturing, especially in our once revered car industries, British Leyland became a joke, out of loyalty I always bought British made cars, none of that 'foreign muck' for me, as I watched my car fall to bits as Japanese cars went on to pass the 100,000 miles mark and still fired up the engine on a frosty morning

The coal industry too went into terminal decline, coal from Poland cost a fraction. But the government at the time thought, 'where are all the jobs for our youth going to come from? we can deal with those made redundant, they are a disposable asset' But can the country afford the cost of millions being unemployed, especially when they are youthful and active?

Solution - privatize, privatize, privatize. Instead of one gas company, we'll have multitudes of them, each of them employing call centres, create a 'swapping' industry where people are forever changing companies, and for those of our youth wanting choices, send them all to university, and make them pay for it, whereas before there was a grant, and getting into university was based on merit, eg getting the requisite A levels, but anyone from any background, got into university if they had the qualifications, I know because I did it myself and I could trot out my working class credentials just as much as the next man, woman whatever. But I had to work bloody hard (pardon my French) to get those A levels, I fell along the way a few times, but I went back and tried again.

So now we have a proliferation of 'service' jobs yes great people are in employment and the economy is robust and thriving? but is it, apparently we are approaching £1trillion of debt, we are the 6th richest country in the world, yet have foodbanks and homeless?

I share your concern about conflict, that is becoming worrying, and I feel we are being sold a pup, the old and trusted methods are being employed..

1 Create an enemy
2 Tell the populace we are under threat
3 Convince the populace that you can save them, so they must follow you

No matter what the circumstances, irrespective of the issue, I always ask myself this simple question "Who stands to gain from this?"

Mor and more countries are being encouraged to join NATO. Now on accession to NATO, that country is obliged to spend an ever increasing amount of GDP on weapons, now, who will those weapons be bought from? Could it be the country with the biggest military of all, despite the fact it is, by a country mile, a smaller country than any other but has a military equal to the top 5 military spenders.

It has been established, conflict is a very lucrative industry, stir up troubles and tension, go to steps 1, 2, 3 and you're quids in. Thing is, in any conflict, the people take the bullets and our leaders take the glory, when will we wake up, because we are being led by the nose. I have lived and worked al lover the world, North South East and West, including countries at war, and there has been one singular factor everywhere amongst everybody, 99% of those I met, lived and worked with, shared a tipple with or dug ditches with, didn't want conflict, they just wanted secure work, safe and comfortable home, education and opportunity for their children, food a plenty, and good health but found themselves in conflict with 'those on the other side of the valley, across the river, over the hill where ever'

In a recent speech, the leader of a union of African countries, on being lectured at by 'The West' said "Show me one country in Africa, that has come out better after the West's interference, they bring guns when we wanted tractors, their 'aid' is a poisoned chalice, but now we have what they want - minerals, but we are going to choose for ourselves who we break bread with"

As is often said "To have X as an enemy is dangerous, to have X as a friend is fatal"

I just pray for the day we stop meddling in other countries

"There are a lot of things in this world right now, locally, and globally, that need to be addressed if we are to avoid major conflicts, on a national and global level.
Direct action is needed, but there aren’t any people willing to take up the challenge, and for some reason, I think there is an underlying agenda to what’s going on right now, it's benefiting people somewhere, financially.
If something isn’t done about these issues soon, things are going to get very ugly, it’s just a question of when, not if.
"

I feel you are spot on in those comments, and one doesn't need to look far for the root cause of trouble, and it occurs to me, there's always one actor that's present in every scene, the weapons dealer. Yes the 'underlying agenda' needs scrutiny, urgently, from an apolitical, unbiased perspective, but research that in the MSM and you're on a hiding to nothing, they all pis* in the same pot, even those I once considered a paragon of virtue

[The Red Bladder]

Direct action is needed, but there aren’t any people willing to take up the challenge, and for some reason, I think there is an underlying agenda to what’s going on right now, it's benefiting people somewhere, financially.
If something isn’t done about these issues soon, things are going to get very ugly, it’s just a question of when, not if.

Every point you make is spot on, we are being lead on, the rich and powerful know that for the main part, we are benign, we see/read an alarmist headline and we are convinced by it.

As stated elsewhere - When all else fails, they take you to war!

I share your concern about conflict, that is becoming worrying, and I feel we are being sold a pup, the old and trusted methods are being employed..

1 Create an enemy
2 Tell the populace we are under threat
3 Convince the populace that you can save them, so they must follow you

No matter what the circumstances, irrespective of the issue, I always ask myself this simple question "Who stands to gain from this?"

The methodology is always the same! Jews, immigrants, darkies, EU migrants, Russians, Ukrainians, you name 'em and we'll make an enemy out of them!

"Who stands to gain from this?"

The arms industry, bankers and anyone with real assets that they are able to hang onto until a war blows over and the dust settles. That may be land, but physical gold strikes me as a more mobile real asset.

After WW2, you could buy an average house in the UK for 18 ounces of gold. At the height of the housing bubble, it would cost you over 300 ounces. Now we are down to 100 ounces. I invest in gold, not because I hope that it goes o $5,000 an ounce, but because I fear that it might go to $20,000.

In simple terms, I fear that fiat currencies will do what they did in the 70s - lose 75% or more of their value.

But (IMO) it is not AI you must fear, but incompetent politicians. You know the ones I mean - the politicians that cannot see past the next election, the politicians that Britain has had without a single exception since the war.

AI will take away the routine and boring jobs that no sane person wants to do. It is already taking away the dangerous and/or unhealthy jobs like mining and it will take away all those dig-a-hole jobs.

And if the music someone creates, the articles someone writes and/or the films and TV programmes someone makes are generic tosh that could be made by AI and nobody would notice or even care - then I fail to see what great loss that is for humanity. Those affected by that development would be better served, creating something.

Time to move on and free-up all those order-entry clerks locked up each day for eight hours. "There you go, my lovelies! You are free! Live! Love! Laugh! You are now free!"

[James Perrett]

I can't help but think that most of the fuss about AI is created by the chattering classes (journalists, broadcasters and politicians) who simply want to be worried about something so that they can carry on writing/talking and making themselves feel important.

Really creative people don't have to worry because they will still be able to innovate in the way that they have always done. They will take these new tools and use them to create things in ways that the AI creators wouldn't have imagined.

Most of us here look back to bands like The Beatles with some fondness but surely they could be thought of as the 60s equivalent of AI with the amount of furore that they caused.

[OneWorld]

RedBlad.

".......The methodology is always the same! Jews, immigrants, darkies, EU migrants, Russians, Ukrainians, you name 'em and we'll make an enemy out of them!........"

Spot on, back of the net, and with the other points you make too.

[OneWorld]

I can't help but think that most of the fuss about AI is created by the chattering classes (journalists, broadcasters and politicians) who simply want to be worried about something so that they can carry on writing/talking and making themselves feel important...........

Yep, I don't see it as any different, and perhaps AI is yet another 'enemy' we need protecting from, but we must hurry out and buy ChattyBGT, hurry, whilst stocks last, "There's gold in them thar hills, and there's no shortage of fools in this world who'll hang onto every word the chattering classes and the issues they wet the bed over"

Yes of course AI is and will continue to have profound impact, but will it stop war, famine, poverty etc, yeah, it's good, but it's not that good, one of my favourite words is 'perspective', when jobs are lost in weapons factories and those workers redeployed in creation and not destruction, then that will impress me, but for now, what does it do that we're not doing already, except quicker

Reminds of of when broadcasting licenses were freed up, instead of having 5 channels of mediocre to the odd brilliant production, we got 55 channels of the same old gubbins, things didn't become 55 times better, no, just 55 times more.

[SafeandSound Mastering]

"Like it or not, AI is a new technology, well not that new actually, it's been around since the '50s, but we might as well embrace it."

For my work as a mastering engineer I have decided I am 100pct not embracing it.

I am doing and will continue doing all mastering associated tasks here, client mix appraisals (when asked for and when diligent to do so), website upkeep (including personally penned blog articles), emailing clients, listening, choosing very specific tools for my toolset (purchased a new one today) and subsequently tailored choices of them for every individual job. All the jobs mastering involve be it analogue or digital, quality control, delivery/upload the entire thing from start to end.

I like my work very much and will carry on doing it as I do it, manually from start to end.

It is a bespoke, tailored, personalized, music specific, set of tool selections and tasks that I am well skilled for.

I read the article with concern and some sadness and know this was happening. The consequences for many are going to be very troubling and I believe for society as a whole.

It has been looming for a long time but luckily thus far my work has been superior to the cold maths bots on offer.

I sincerely wish everyone affected the strength, flexibility and ingenuity to navigate what comes their way.

[OneWorld]

"Like it or not, AI is a new technology, well not that new actually, it's been around since the '50s, but we might as well embrace it."

For my work as a mastering engineer I have decided I am 100pct not embracing it.

I am doing and will continue doing all mastering associated tasks here, client mix appraisals (when asked for and when diligent to do so), website upkeep (including personally penned blog articles), emailing clients, listening, choosing very specific tools for my toolset (purchased a new one today) and subsequently tailored choices of them for every individual job. All the jobs mastering involve be it analogue or digital, quality control, delivery/upload the entire thing from start to end.

I like my work very much and will carry on doing it as I do it, manually from start to end.

It is a bespoke, tailored, personalized, music specific, set of tool selections and tasks that I am well skilled for.

I read the article with concern and some sadness and know this was happening. The consequences for many are going to be very troubling and I believe for society as a whole.

It has been looming for a long time but luckily thus far my work has been superior to the cold maths bots on offer.

I sincerely wish everyone affected the strength, flexibility and ingenuity to navigate what comes their way.

You will embrace it some way or another, the embracing of it is not restricted to mastering, there will be AI in stealth mode that will increasingly, insidiously, leeching into our lives. Just in the same way people say "I never listen to jazz and never will" then sit down, kick back and play Take 5

AI is coming, and it's coming for you

[SafeandSound Mastering]

I clearly mentioned mastering and no, it came and went as far as my reality is concerned as an incredibly poor imitation, merely a namesake.

Like anything in reality, you can choose how much AI alters your life not.

Money will dictate what AI is used for.

[The Red Bladder]

I can't help but think that most of the fuss about AI is created by the chattering classes (journalists, broadcasters and politicians) who simply want to be worried about something so that they can carry on writing/talking and making themselves feel important...........

Yep, I don't see it as any different, and perhaps AI is yet another 'enemy' we need protecting from, but we must hurry out and buy ChattyBGT, hurry, whilst stocks last, "There's gold in them thar hills, and there's no shortage of fools in this world who'll hang onto every word the chattering classes and the issues they wet the bed over"

I cannot help but notice several things -

1. Many of those "warning" us about AI are former AI execs with very large holdings in their former companies. I do recognise hype when it is that blatant! What they are in effect saying is "Wow! This stuff is super powerful and, in fact, it is so massively powerful that it could trigger WW3 and even start killing people selectively! So you'd better buy some shares in AI now!" I use Chat-GPT every day and I'm calling "Total BS on that nonsense!"

2. Working in a sawmill? That means sitting and watching computer screens or driving a telehandler. Forget crusty fat men pushing large logs through giant bandsaws - this is what it looks like today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1ohAARmeoQ
How about mining? Look at all these poor children with pickaxes, all the slave labour in a Chinese coalmine! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uImlzZUw5bQ
Yes, slaves! Not one of those robots gets paid! And if you've ever bought a Chinese solar collector, when you open the box it came in, you are the first human to have touched it. Even the QC is done by AI.

3. On Saturday night, the Ukrainian military managed to destroy a very large part of Russia's nuclear bomber fleet and, very critically, most of it's vital refuelling aircraft. It also damaged a nuclear missile submarine. All of this was in Northern Russia - where they thought they were safe. Of course, the Western press could not report on this because they all had to make room for Taylor Swift features! You are not being fed the news, you are being fed with candyfloss!

4. The whole of Wall Street and the City of London is in near-panic mode over the number 137. Another number that is keeping bankers awake at night is 28. But you will not hear the slightest sound about either number from the press or any broadcasters - if one mainstream media outlet, or just a rogue reporter, would even dare to mention those numbers, their banks would pull their credit, a six-pack at a time!

137 is the number of the trillions of dollars in debts and unfunded (and totally unaccounted for) liabilities that the USA is is carrying. And 28 is the number of trillions of dollars of debt that fall due in the next three years.

And unbelievable as it may seem, the Bank of Englandshire has been helping the Federal Reserve Bank by doing a bond-swap with the Fed - so now we are all on the hook as well for US self-indulgent largesse! (I hope no one here is counting on their state pension being worth more than a bucket of warm spit in a few year's time!)

5. Trump's so-called "Big Beautiful Bill" contains a series of measures that will set up a central account with the Treasury General Account at the Fed for every child in the US born after 1st Jan. 2025 and holding $1,000 that can be added to and must be invested in a general US stock market. In other words, it is a back-door CBDC - a Central Bank Digital Currency. That is the precise structure set up in the USSR with Gosbank that allowed the financial monitoring and total control of the entire population.

You didn't get to hear about that either. You got more pictures of Taylor Swift instead. More candyfloss!

[OneWorld]

I can't help but think that most of the fuss about AI is created by the chattering classes (journalists, broadcasters and politicians) who simply want to be worried about something so that they can carry on writing/talking and making themselves feel important...........

Yep, I don't see it as any different, and perhaps AI is yet another 'enemy' we need protecting from, but we must hurry out and buy ChattyBGT, hurry, whilst stocks last, "There's gold in them thar hills, and there's no shortage of fools in this world who'll hang onto every word the chattering classes and the issues they wet the bed over"

................
How about mining? Look at all these poor children with pickaxes, all the slave labour in a Chinese coalmine! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uImlzZUw5bQ
Yes, slaves! Not one of those robots gets paid! And if you've ever bought a Chinese solar collector, when you open the box it came in, you are the first human to have touched it. Even the QC is done by AI......

The thing is, people will see this content, and not go and watch the video, and will go away and telling everyone down the pub that kids are in forced labour slaving away all hours for a bowl of rice with maggots in it


3. On Saturday night, the Ukrainian military managed to destroy a very large part of Russia's nuclear bomber fleet and, very critically, most of it's vital refuelling aircraft. It also damaged a nuclear missile submarine. All of this was in Northern Russia - where they thought they were safe. Of course, the Western press could not report on this because they all had to make room for Taylor Swift features! You are not being fed the news, you are being fed with candyfloss!

This has been reported on in the UK quite widely, and the timing of it perfect - on the night before the talks commence. Could just be coincidence of course.


5. Trump's so-called "Big Beautiful Bill" contains a series of measures that will set up a central account with the Treasury General Account at the Fed for every child in the US born after 1st Jan. 2025 and holding $1,000 that can be added to and must be invested in a general US stock market. In other words, it is a back-door CBDC - a Central Bank Digital Currency. That is the precise structure set up in the USSR with Gosbank that allowed the financial monitoring and total control of the entire population.

Back in the day, Bush, in order to 'stimulate' the economy, gave a $1000 to almost every adult in the USA.

The gesture certainly stimulated the economy, polls showed that almost 75% of the total was spent on online porn, the rest on gambling. Unforseen consequences eh

I do agree with much of what you say though. Only yesterday here was an online forum and the topic was the veracity of the BBC and the common perception these days is that the BBC is not the paragon of virtue it used to be, being accused of bias, with many start examples given. If and when AI starts to do the job of editors, then the situation can only get worse and yes, we'll be fed a constant diet of 'safe as milk' content completely devoid of comprehensive and informed comment, the 'Dream' being sold to have the workers believe that the if they graft just a little bit harder, for less, the more likely it is they will on a villa in Florida, a castle in Spain, a Manor House in London, drive Lambos to the airport where they have their own colour co-ordinated Lear Jet and fly down to Rio to have cocktails with the Swiftess

[Sam Spoons]

The interesting thing about accusations of bias at the Beeb is that they seem to come in equal measure from both sides of the political spectrum.

[SafeandSound Mastering]

No point in concerning about the areas of AI in our lives that we have no choice in. That will happen as it will and we will fall into line, whether it brings trouble or it helps us, we don't have much control over that. I am hoping great medical breakthroughs have happened or are happening.

My suspicion is it may be privately funded and be affordable for only the richest.

For myself I just do not have interest in GPT or finding out information using AI or using it to solve life problems or whatever people use it as, as a pass time.
I imagine this is a hobby for some now, whatever you enjoy.

I like relaxing, making music, maybe testing new tools out on my own pre masters (and in plug in doctor), walking, being with friends, looking at the sky and looking at plants and bees in my spare time.

I think it might help us reflect on what being an organic evolved biological, universe born being is. An indivisible part of the evolved whole. Along with other organic sentient evolved beings. The magnificence, being irreplaceable, vastly complex beyond data recall and iteration and finite in life span.

I hope so.

I cannot find a use for AI in my life personally.

[OneWorld]

The interesting thing about accusations of bias at the Beeb is that they seem to come in equal measure from both sides of the political spectrum.

Therein lies the rub, irrespective of the claims of bias, they don't change the delivery, maybe they feel they are beyond critique. The BBC used to attract plaudits a plenty, not any more they don't, and as they Netflixify the content, it doesn't bode well.

Me, I go to Democracy Now, Double Down News and there, we get a completely different take on things, accounts delivered by people that are 'at the front' and delivering direct to camera, no edits/filters, the emotion is too stark to be a prepared statement.

[OneWorld]

............I cannot find a use for AI in my life personally.

That's my point, it'll find a use for you, in even the most benign way, it is being employed in every perceivable manner, because the $billionaires are in a race to be the first $trillionaire, Elon Muck is already half way there, and you/we are mere collateral damage so to speak.

[SafeandSound Mastering]

Well there is that which you cannot control, so put your mind to that which you can.

Employ your own discriminatory intelligence (your very own brain still exists and is vastly superior to AI for being a human being).

A blanket non usage policy works for me right now. I am currently a satisifed user of actual intelligence.

[Sam Spoons]

The interesting thing about accusations of bias at the Beeb is that they seem to come in equal measure from both sides of the political spectrum.

Therein lies the rub, irrespective of the claims of bias, they don't change the delivery, maybe they feel they are beyond critique. The BBC used to attract plaudits a plenty, not any more they don't, and as they Netflixify the content, it doesn't bode well.

Me, I go to Democracy Now, Double Down News and there, we get a completely different take on things, accounts delivered by people that are 'at the front' and delivering direct to camera, no edits/filters, the emotion is too stark to be a prepared statement.

If both the right and the left complain of bias doesn't that suggest that the BBC are navigating a course pretty close to the middle?