Turbosound speakers active or passive

[gsc1ugs@gmail.com]

Is turbosound a force to be recommended for front of house? does it compare with KV2 AUDIO and similar brands - looking for a backup system for room size 300 people

[Sam Spoons]

Turbosound are now part of the Music Tribe group (Behringer). They were well regarded back in the day.

[Wonks]

I think you’d have to differentiate between the high-end systems for installs and big hire companies, and the much lower-end amateur/semi-pro systems.

But I’ve no idea at all about how any of their systems compare with others at any price point.

[amanise]

Time was (circa early 00's) that mainstream acts would have Turbosound PAs specifically named in their contract stage specs for poor old promoters like me to seek out and provide for their swaggering sound guys to saunter up to on the night and approve for the gig. I jest of course. They were staggering more than swaggering.

They did have a great sound then - but some of their rep for pro touring use would also have come from reliability and being able to withstand being chucked in and out of trucks. None of the soundies ever complained about them - unlike some other comments I heard about other systems I arranged on site from time to time.

I expect if they've lost anything, it will be the durability. But they might still be as good! You never know!

[Dave Rowles]

I've heard a couple of speakers from the Turbosound collection, and of course...there's Turbosound and there's Turbosound.

They do lower cost stuff, and they do slightly more expensive stuff.

I'd place them on a par with RCF at the current time.

At the level of market there is a massive crowd of options, and in reality you're only going to know which one will suit you best by getting out and listening to it. I know that's not always possible, but if you're going to be investing the costs you've mentioned in other threads, then I'd really suggest making a trip and getting your ears in front of them.

[Sam Spoons]

Which KV2 audio boxes are you asking us to compare with?

[resistorman]

I bought 4 of the Milan M10's as monitors for a local Contra Dance outfit, they sound very good, don't feedback and have held up well. They were the least expensive decent quality powered 10's available at the time, and my rep at Sweetwater says they sell a ton of them.

[gsc1ugs@gmail.com]

a nice back up

[gsc1ugs@gmail.com]

I've heard a couple of speakers from the Turbosound collection, and of course...there's Turbosound and there's Turbosound.

They do lower cost stuff, and they do slightly more expensive stuff.

I'd place them on a par with RCF at the current time.

At the level of market there is a massive crowd of options, and in reality you're only going to know which one will suit you best by getting out and listening to it. I know that's not always possible, but if you're going to be investing the costs you've mentioned in other threads, then I'd really suggest making a trip and getting your ears in front of them.

I want blow the crowd or turn it down

[Acoustic Landscape]

Turbosound and the brains that made them amazing back in the day, are now known as Funktion One, still amazing, from a small party to a stadium. You wont regret it!

[gsc1ugs@gmail.com]

Which active series would you go for?

[Acoustic Landscape]

Hi gsc1ugs,

Funktion One. They are all active. They are not cheap.
Their F series amps + XO management (active management), racked.
No crossovers (Passive filters) are in the cabs.

A pair of Res 2's alone would work a backup situation for 300 capacity on stage height. To maintain crowd jumping depth of bass slam, add a pair of BR121. Hearing that combo, your current main front of house would be relegated to backup, unless it's truly exceptional!

Or a pair of res1's and a pair of BR118.

A pair of res1's on their own might be a bit bass light.

[Wonks]

Hi gsc1ugs,

Funktion One. They are all passive. They are not cheap.
Best used with their F series amps + XO management (active management) racked.
No crossovers (Passive filters) are in the cabs.

A pair of Res 2's alone would work a backup situation for 300 capacity on stage height. To maintain crowd jumping depth of bass slam, add a pair of BR121. When you hear that combo, your current main front of house would be relegated to backup, unless it's truly exceptional!

Corrected that for you.

[Acoustic Landscape]

Active DSP management filters to the frequency profile of each driver,
that signal goes to the amps, then to the cabinets and their respective drivers.

No passive crossovers are in the cabs.

The amps are not strapped to the cabs.

Yes these are active systems.

[Wonks]

In gsc1usg's 'passive or active' terms they are 'passive' in the sense there is no power amp located within the speaker, but yes, as you move up the PA ladder, you need to be able to differentiate between the terms 'passive', 'powered' and 'active'.

[Acoustic Landscape]

That's sounds like a marketing label to muddy the principle of Active and Passive amplification of loudspeakers.

There are passive systems;
These have a crossover of passive components, usually mounted near the loudspeaker drivers inside the cabinet. They filter to the frequency profile of each driver in the path of the amplifiers powering full frequency bandwidth.
Having an amplifier per loudspeaker driver increases quality;
Bi-amping/ Tri-amping/

Generally, these methods allow simple and flexible audio reproduction.

There are active systems;
These do not have a crossover of passive components in the cabinet connected in the loudspeaker driver path, this is the principal advantage. In the preamp stage before the amplifier, the signal is filtered by a dedicated DSP to match the frequency profile of the loudspeaker driver/s, these are powered directly from a dedicated amp at the correct frequencies/ roll-offs. This can also so be achieved with an analogue filter in the preamp for specific loudspeaker drivers, with less flexibility, but higher quality at a lower price point.

Generally these are known for efficiency and accuracy.
These methods are now widely in use in monitoring and PA systems.

[Sam Spoons]

That said it is common usage to refer to powered speakers as active and this is not unreasonable given that most powered speakers have some kind of active speaker management/crossover and a separate power amp for each drive unit.