Hi
I bought the Yamaha fc3a sustain pedal for my s 61 mk3 ni. I couldnt make it work . I was wondering if there is any way to make it work maybe with a trs adaptor ? Or if i can use it for something Else .
Anyway i am buying the roland Dp 10 next . It should work better for sustain with the s61.
Thank you
Sustain problem
Sustain problem
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- mountain lion
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Re: Sustain problem
I haven't used the S mk3, but quickly checking the manual I see that the pedal inputs including sustain are highly configurable. Is it possible that the default settings for the Sustain pedal input have been changed? If so, that might be causing the problem. I don't think adding a TRS adaptor will solve things. It's 99.99% most likely a wrong setting.
The manual also shows you how to do a factory reset, which should solve the problem.
Finally, it's possible that the sustain pedal is defective, although this would be rare
The manual also shows you how to do a factory reset, which should solve the problem.
Finally, it's possible that the sustain pedal is defective, although this would be rare
Re: Sustain problem
It depends on if you want switched (TS jack) or continuous (TRS) control.
The Yamaha and the Roland are electrically identical so you may have the same problem with both. Although the Roland lets you select Switched mode or Continuous. Total waste of that pedal to use it in switched mode. A cheaper TS pedal will do fine if that is what you prefer. I have a TGI and a Boston branded switching pedals, they look identical and they are fine.
It is more likley an issue with the settings on the keyboard, or the socket it is plugged in to. These sustain pedals allow "half damping" i.e. you can get different durations of sustain depending on how far you press on the pedal. Just like a real grand piano. I would check in the manual for the term half damping.
Or you might need to do this:
On my Akai MX-1000 I have to use a controller input instead of the sustain pedal input because the sustain pedal input can only accept TS, which gives fully on or fully off. After I plugged the DP10 into the control input, I assigned it to cc 64 Sustain, and it works perfectly. Not bad for a keyboard made in 1992!
The Yamaha and the Roland are electrically identical so you may have the same problem with both. Although the Roland lets you select Switched mode or Continuous. Total waste of that pedal to use it in switched mode. A cheaper TS pedal will do fine if that is what you prefer. I have a TGI and a Boston branded switching pedals, they look identical and they are fine.
It is more likley an issue with the settings on the keyboard, or the socket it is plugged in to. These sustain pedals allow "half damping" i.e. you can get different durations of sustain depending on how far you press on the pedal. Just like a real grand piano. I would check in the manual for the term half damping.
Or you might need to do this:
On my Akai MX-1000 I have to use a controller input instead of the sustain pedal input because the sustain pedal input can only accept TS, which gives fully on or fully off. After I plugged the DP10 into the control input, I assigned it to cc 64 Sustain, and it works perfectly. Not bad for a keyboard made in 1992!
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Re: Sustain problem
Thanks for the replies .
I was actually recomended not to use the fc3a for the s61. The thing is that the s61 doesnt support continuous pedal only on off switch . So therefore i am looking at the Dp 10 that can do both i believe. I dont see it as a waste to buy only for the on off switch because you also get the build quality
I was actually recomended not to use the fc3a for the s61. The thing is that the s61 doesnt support continuous pedal only on off switch . So therefore i am looking at the Dp 10 that can do both i believe. I dont see it as a waste to buy only for the on off switch because you also get the build quality
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- mountain lion
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Re: Sustain problem
Pretty sure the S61 does support continuous dampers at the hardware level. I'm sure I've seen setup options for that....
...but not all software instruments respond to half-pedalling, so make sure the instrument you're trying to control works as hoped before dismissing the pedal!
...but not all software instruments respond to half-pedalling, so make sure the instrument you're trying to control works as hoped before dismissing the pedal!
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Re: Sustain problem
Agreed. RTFM 
The switching pedals I mentioned are just as solidly built as the Roland. The extra cost of the Roland is in making it both solid and continuous.
The switching pedals I mentioned are just as solidly built as the Roland. The extra cost of the Roland is in making it both solid and continuous.
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