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No JK. I read the whole thing twice actually, that was some really good stuff. I appreciate all your insights. All I will say in response though is that yes I aim to figure out how to us AI for song creation as an advanced macro not a complete generator, and I will certainly explore the forum more. Additionally I truly do not know how I can ever overcome my inability to sing... Like physically, I cannot get enough breathe in my body to sing for more than about 30 seconds with any kind of quality... all else can be learned, but I can't fix that unfortunately.
Cheers! I look forward to exploring this place more.
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- Appelbuddym
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As I said in another thread the various advances in the graphic design programs should have rendered my job obsolete years ago, but (certainly in my niche - print for packaging) they have simply allowed people who don't know what they are doing to get it even more wrong. A good proportion of my work comes from making what the designers have come up with properly printable with often a compromise between colour accuracy and affordability. Much of it is entirely subjective and a solution that works for one client will be completely inappropriate or unacceptable to another. That's something that AI currently just can't understand.
On the question of AI-generated music, I'm not worried. IME AI is currently at the stage as me when I was 15 and just starting to write my own music in that my influences were so much on show that I could have been accused of plagiarism. Also the people who are happy with the current state of AI-generated music are not my audience, and probably never will be. For them music is something to fill in what would otherwise be uncomfortable silence. No-one is actively listening to it.
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SubmitHub have just launched an AI-generated song checker: https://www.submithub.com/ai-song-checker
It's in beta and not meant to be taken seriously but I stuck a few of my tracks in there and I'm pleased to report they all came back as at least 90% probability of being human made.
Which is nice.
It's in beta and not meant to be taken seriously but I stuck a few of my tracks in there and I'm pleased to report they all came back as at least 90% probability of being human made.
Which is nice.
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Drew Stephenson wrote: ↑Tue Aug 05, 2025 2:56 pm SubmitHub have just launched an AI-generated song checker: https://www.submithub.com/ai-song-checker
It's in beta and not meant to be taken seriously but I stuck a few of my tracks in there and I'm pleased to report they all came back as at least 90% probability of being human made.
Which is nice.
I suppose the other 10% must be due to that implant that was placed in your body during the alien abuction you suffered last year Drew
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Reckon so. And I can only say I've been very disappointed that I can't pick up wifi directly to my brain.
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Drew Stephenson wrote: ↑Thu Aug 07, 2025 4:51 pm Reckon so. And I can only say I've been very disappointed that I can't pick up wifi directly to my brain.
It's just a matter of time Drew. It will be available inside a decade, I reckon.
An ex-leader of Google Deep Mind has said that he foresees 15 years of dystopia as AI develops and changes every aspect of society. It's not going to be a comfortable ride.
It's one of those things that is being done a) because it can and b) because tech companies fear being left behind by the competition and c) no-one has a clue how to regulate it.
It's a pretty reckless experiment, I think. The most likely result seems to be that wealth will be concentrated in the hands of even fewer people. In that timeframe, I think humanoid robots will also be on the scene.
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RichardT wrote: ↑Thu Aug 07, 2025 5:04 pmDrew Stephenson wrote: ↑Thu Aug 07, 2025 4:51 pm Reckon so. And I can only say I've been very disappointed that I can't pick up wifi directly to my brain.
It's just a matter of time Drew. It will be available inside a decade, I reckon.
An ex-leader of Google Deep Mind has said that he foresees 15 years of dystopia as AI develops and changes every aspect of society. It's not going to be a comfortable ride.
It's one of those things that is being done a) because it can and b) because tech companies fear being left behind by the competition and c) no-one has a clue how to regulate it.
It's a pretty reckless experiment, I think. The most likely result seems to be that wealth will be concentrated in the hands of even fewer people. In that timeframe, I think humanoid robots will also be on the scene.
"An ex-leader of Google Deep Mind has said that he foresees 15 years of dystopia as AI develops and changes every aspect of society. It's not going to be a comfortable ride"
There's one sure fire way of getting publicity - say something controversial and worrying, there's demons under the bed and they're coming for you.
Sure enough it'll have it's impact, so did the wheel. But when I go to open mic night and see a robot singing
"My Woman Done Gone and Left Me,
The Dog's at Death's Door,
the Bailiff's Clamped my Datsun,
I Just Can't Take Anymore"
Then yep, maybe our future as writer/performers future is on jeopardy. TYhat said I was in the pub earlier and one of the customers complained about a singer that was on the other night and the landlady said "Yes I agree, it's the only time I have had a singer on and wished I could have handed out ear plugs with a pint"
So the organic alternative to artificial music can be just as woeful. I would like a robot though, to change the strings on my guitar, would be a start.
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Drew Stephenson wrote: ↑Thu Aug 07, 2025 7:18 pm
Until we decide that crony capitalism and kakistocracy aren't the best forms of government then I must agree.
Yep, there's nothing new under the sun.
Re: AI Music Generators
For me it comes down to music as a product vs music as a process. As a product I have no interest in providing a prompt and delivering a music product from the AI factory. In terms of process, there can be useful tools that can enhance the creative process. Also, many AI tools are just marketing and it is just a big database that generate some result with no intelligence at all. After the glowing SOS review of Synthesizer V, I bought it. Well, Pandoras Voice Box sat on my hard drive for a longtime as I was a little scared to open it and go down that path. Turns out it is a really useful tool. It’s AI regeneration is just variations and as far as I can tell, not AI. So in terms of process, in general, these AI tools can be useful, but it is up to the musical creator to make the decision on how and where to use them.
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Sounds about right. 