The inevitable Mac OS Tahoe 26 thread

[Dave.P]

Of course not updating here, but the main point from reading a few articles is Firewire support has apparently gone from Tahoe completely now.
It was apparently in Beta versions but not in the full release.

The other casualty seems also to be Launchpad which is now replaced by an apps launcher or something like that for frequently used software.

Might have a go on my older iMac Pro to see what all this liquid stuff is about, but just thought worth mentioning.

[RichardT]

I'd like to go for it, but I couldn't use Cubase, a lot of my sample libraries and synths at the moment.

I think it could be a few months before I take the plunge, possibly more.

[Pete Becker]

Yes, FireWire is gone on MacOS 26 Tahoe. Another victim here! My 20 year old RME Fireface 800 is now no longer useable. Didn't check did I before I upgraded.

[Dave.P]

Yes, FireWire is gone on MacOS 26 Tahoe. Another victim here! My 20 year old RME Fireface 800 is now no longer useable. Didn't check did I before I upgraded.

If you have a Time Machine backup you can hopefully go back?

https://www.macworld.com/article/671318 ... -back.html

[Martin Walker]

I'm not a Mac user, but even I have just received an email from Eventide Audio warning me not to hold off installing Tahoe as their plugins may have problems with it.

[Sam Spoons]

I'll do my usual and only upgrade when forced to do so, the studio Mac Pro is on Sequoia and this MBP is on Ventura. The old studio Mac Pro 2008 was still working fine on El Capitan (apart from not being able to run a mk 2 Stream Deck) when I replaced it last year.

[Pete Becker]

I'm not a Mac user, but even I have just received an email from Eventide Audio warning me not to hold off installing Tahoe as their plugins may have problems with it.

I just reset and re-scanned all my plugins in Logic's Plug-in Manager and all seems OK with my Eventide plugins. Caveat : I didn't test ALL parameters on the Eventide plugins I own, but things seem to be working OK for me.

[OneWorld]

Sounds like it's great to tinker with, I want one, and I want one now, in fact gimme two

[Dave Rowles]

Damn, mean's i've missed the window to update to the last version of the previous OS....ah well, guess I'll be on 14 till mid next year then!

[The Paul meister]

Hi everyone,

I started the update to Tahoe 26, but then looked at this on my PC laptop while it was installing. I cancelled the update:

https://www.google.com/search?q=is+Logi ... Nb6Zc,st:0

In the video, he talks about the Sweet Water Compatibility list. Not sure exactly how to get onto this, but try it in Google.

Cheers, Paul

[ronmac]

Apple macOS Tahoe Audio Compatibility For Audio Plugins And Hardware

https://www.production-expert.com/apple ... lity-chart

I have always found the Production Expert website to be a quick way to assess the right time to install a new OS.

[ConcertinaChap]

Damn, mean's i've missed the window to update to the last version of the previous OS....ah well, guess I'll be on 14 till mid next year then!

Its not too late. Go to the app store and search for Sequoia. You'll find it (v15.6) and the option to get it. Apple have built this route to a surprising number of old versions of MacOS into the app store, which is commendable I think. I'm still on Sonoma and will be going to Sequoia next week.

CC

[ConcertinaChap]

The other casualty seems also to be Launchpad which is now replaced by an apps launcher or something like that for frequently used software.

Might be an inprovement if we're lucky. I disliked Launchpad and never used it because the app icons were not listed in any discernable order and I couldn't be buggered to search for apps. Do you remember the Applications folder in the dock in times gone by? That was nice because the app icons were shown in alphabetical order which made apps easy to find. I found that if you dragged the Applications folder from Finder onto the dock round about where it used to be then it worked just as it used to. Can't see why that shouldn't work with Tahoe either.

CC

[BigRedX]

I've never seen the point of LaunchPad. I have all the apps I use in the dock which is placed on the right-hand side of the right hand screen. I switch between open apps using Command-Tab or keyboard short cuts.

What am I missing?

[Dave Rowles]

Its not too late. Go to the app store and search for Sequoia. You'll find it (v15.6) and the option to get it. Apple have built this route to a surprising number of old versions of MacOS into the app store, which is commendable I think. I'm still on Sonoma and will be going to Sequoia next week.

CC

Good knowledge. Thank you!

[BigRedX]

I've told my clients that I'm having a week off next month. Whist I will be going away on an actual holiday for some of that time, the rest of it will be spent updating my Mac Studio to Sequoia.

[ConcertinaChap]

As quickly as that! I wish I had your optimism

CC

[johnny h]

I've told my clients that I'm having a week off next month. Whist I will be going away on an actual holiday for some of that time, the rest of it will be spent updating my Mac Studio to Sequoia.

Why? What's the rush?

[IAA]

As quickly as that! I wish I had your optimism

Went swimmingly for me earlier this year. Not a hitch. I had a backup just in case in Time Machine rather than live too far on the edge!. Updating Arturia V Synth, well, let’s just say that went not swimmingly

Ian

[BigRedX]

I've told my clients that I'm having a week off next month. Whist I will be going away on an actual holiday for some of that time, the rest of it will be spent updating my Mac Studio to Sequoia.

Why? What's the rush?

Mostly because my Mac is primarily used for my day job which is graphic design and if I can't run the latest versions of the Adobe Creative Cloud applications I'll lose the ability to collaborate with some of my clients. Whilst AFAICS Adobe CC doesn't REQUIRE Sequoia yet, I'd rather upgrade at my own pace during some down time and not when it is forced upon me because I've received some files that won't open in the versions of CC that I'm currently running.

For music I use Logic which is fine with Sequoia and have made a conscious decision to try to stick with the built-in plug-ins as far as possible for just this situation. AFAICS the two 3rd party plus-ins that I do use are both supposed to be compatible with Sequoia but neither are essential to my workflow should that turn out to be not the case.

And anyway the whole subject is moot because I didn't have time last week and probably won't have another opportunity until the coming weekend at the earliest.

[BigRedX]

Well I updated my Mac Studio to Sequoia at the weekend and it all went relatively painlessly apart form the fact that couldn't apply and Sequoia update until I had updated my version of Sonoma to the last one first.

This process was rather confusing since I was under the impression that I already had the most up to date version of Sonoma and although I have automatic updates turned off I should still have received notifications that there were updates to Sonoma, which I hadn't and there was nothing in either the App Store and Software update in System Setting was just telling me about Tahoe.

Added to this, my first two attempts to update to Sequoia failed because I didn't have the most up to date version of Sonoma although none of the error messages I got mentioned this, and when I did finally get an update to start it turned out to be the Sonoma update and Sequoia. I might have got a message saying this but because I'm mildly dyslexic and because I was relieved that it appeared to be working I didn't notice that I was updating to the final version of Sonoma and not Sequoia. I didn't spot this until I rebooted at the end of the process and discovered that I was on Sonoma.

However once I'd done that the Sequoia update downloaded and installed without any problems. The whole process took less than a morning including all the messing about.

[Jimmy T]

I bought a new M4 Mac Mini and updated from Sequoa to Tahoe and then found out how much I missed my firewire gear and reinstalled the OS that comes with the Mac, Sequoa. So I guess this is the last chance to buy anew Mac and maintain Firewire. I'm so pleased I did. MOTU gear working perfectly.

[Maurizio De Cecco]

I've never seen the point of LaunchPad. I have all the apps I use in the dock which is placed on the right-hand side of the right hand screen. I switch between open apps using Command-Tab or keyboard short cuts.

What am I missing?

OK, it is already an old discussion, but i have just update to Tahoe, and
found the new Spotlight launcher unusable. OK, for my use case.

First of all, i have around 200 hundreds applications installed; on the musical side, some DAWs, many plugins that have a standalone version (Arturia, NI, AAS), a number of office applications (MS, Libre Office, Apple), a number of Video applications, a number of chats/videoconf apps, a number of file utilities.

Not that i liked especially Launchpad, but the main point is that while initially it shows application in a may be random order, you can reorganize them by pages, and folders within the pages. I have a page for basic daily stuff (mail, browsers, various chats, etc). A page for music related applications, with folders for the different groups (Arturia, NI, UVI, DAWs, Notation, etc). A Page for video, a page for office work, and a page for non Apple utilities; when i am looking for something, i know where i should go.

Now, in the Spotlight launcher, the categories are fixed, and given by the developers; in my installation, they have no meaning for most of the applications, and in general they are too broad to allow me to find an application quickly (or at all).

You can search an application by name; great, what was the Rhodes Arturia or AAS plugin name again ? Or the last unzipper tool i installed ? I do not know all my application by name, and when i am looking for a specific tool i cannot browse two hundreds icons to find them. I need a tool for my organizing application following my personal logic.

Yes, you can create a folder structure reflecting your organization, put aliases for applications inside, and put the folder in the dock; but it is a pain in the ass to maintain. I finally bought one of the many launchpad-like applications for Tahoe and it is fine. Not better and not worse than the Launchpad, but it allows maintaining the application logical structure easily.

Maurizio

[ConcertinaChap]

I've never used Launchpad, couldn't be having with the random order, alpha is all I want. To get that all you have to do is to drag the Applications folder into the dock next to Downloads and it acquires an icon with a nice A on it. Click on it and it opens into an alpha ordered table of icons of your apps just like it used to do in the days before Launchpad. It does all I want when I want an application that isn't in the dock.

Disappointing, even though I don't use it, that Launchpad now fixes the categories, shows an unnecessarily fascistic tendency, I feel.

CC

[Rich Hanson]

To get that all you have to do is to drag the Applications folder into the dock next to Downloads and it acquires an icon with a nice A on it. Click on it and it opens into an alpha ordered table of icons of your apps just like it used to do in the days before Launchpad. It does all I want when I want an application that isn't in the dock.

Ooo, every day a school day! Thanks for that Chris.