Migrating to a new Mac

[MarkOne]

Hi All. Not been around much of late... Real life and all that!

I have in from to me a brand new fully tricked out new M4 Pro Mac mini to replace my M1 MBP.

Before I do the deed, any tips on migrating logic?

Is there an easy way to get a list of plugins in a text file so I can go through them one at a time? Sort of a Plug-in manager export function?

What of the plugins am I likely to need to deregister before getting up and running on the new machine?

I do have an iLoc but I think a lot of keys might be stored locally not on the dongle.

Not had a new machine for years so this is all a bit rusty.

It should be simple shouldn't it? It is when you get an new phone.

[Kwackman]

Apple have a migration tool, and from memory, it's pretty easy?
YMMV

https://support.apple.com/en-gb/102613

[RichardT]

Cubase not Logic - but I used migration assistant and it was very easy.

I created a spreadsheet of my 3rd party plugins and investigated what the licensing implications were, so I knew exactly what was going to happen before I started.

I had very few problems - mostly old plugins not working under the new OS - but they were minor.

However, if you have just bought the machine and it has Tahoe on it DO NOT MIGRATE YET. A lot of vendors have not updated their plugins to be compatible yet.

[tacitus]

Yeah, I stopped my son’s Tahoe update the other day because I thought it might not run some of his stuff. Check what you have - if you ordered direct from Apple it’ll be Tahoe. Do your plugin (and app) spreadsheet and use it to check where the vendors have got to …

Personally, I’ve copied my first Mac Mini to my first iMac, then from there to my next iMac and finally to my iMac M3 in 2023. Since the first Mac mini had PC files from previous machines, I have some stuff going back to the early 1990s (largely useless, I might say). Apart from few small hiccups when we moved from 32 to 64 bit, no problems worth mentioning with Apple’s tool.

[BigRedX]

After any major OS update I go through my Applications folder and delete or update anything with a cross symbol through it.

[MarkOne]

However, if you have just bought the machine and it has Tahoe on it DO NOT MIGRATE YET. A lot of vendors have not updated their plugins to be compatible yet.

I may not have a choice. The MBP is going to the Apple Store for trade-in tomorrow, come what may, and the mini is just whatever was shipped from Shenzhen last Friday.

[ConcertinaChap]

Not that this will help you, I'm afraid, but it might be interesting to others. If you buy an Apple Refurb machine (as I usually do) these frequently come with the version of MacOS current at the time they were first released, which can be a life saver in this circumstance.

Personally I do a manual migration because by so doing I get rid of a load of redundant cruft that I always seem to accumulate over the years. Time consuming but I love the feel of the clean machine that results, where I know exactly what's on it. I commend the idea of documenting all your plugins that you want to keep and any registration issues they may have before they bite you.

CC

[MarkOne]

As it happens, the new machine is on Sequoia, so no worry there. Just finished migration assistant and now I have to face the plugin authorisations next!

[ConcertinaChap]

That is cool.

CC

[RichardT]

Good news!

[Arpangel]

The next migration will be back to a PC, or a tape machine if Microsoft continue to carry on like they are.
I bought my iMac simply because I was curious, people were telling me "it will change your life, you’ll never look back" yes, it did, change my bank balance, and I was looking back at how logical my PC was to use compared to my cryptic illogical Mac.
Apple are good, but over priced, and your locked into the Mac ecosystem, which I hate.

[tacitus]

Yeah, big bring locked in is part of the package. I’m pissed off forever with the way PC components work one day but not when you use another one in the wrong slot, or it’s a bank holiday or whatever. And I haven’t used LCs for 20 years now, that’s how scarred I was.

I only use Macs with “popular” interface options and the like. If something won’t work, I’ve never failed to solve it by Googling the issue to find how others have solved that problem.

And as I’ve said before, Macs have cost me less then I used to spend on PCs, allowing for inflation, discounted cash flow and all the rest. I guess. It’s probably one of those things that costs about the same whichever way you do it. I’m not anal enough to prove it one way or the other.

[merlyn]

I'm not really making any particular point ... just how it seems to me ...

I bet you have a modular hi-fi. You might even turn your nose up at an all-in-one hi-fi because they're for cloth-eared consumers. "Oh, I could never get a modular hi-fi to work. The wires, you know."

I like my modular computer, which isn't glued together, and I can replace the NVMe drive if I want to.

[resistorman]

The next migration will be back to a PC, or a tape machine if Microsoft continue to carry on like they are.
I bought my iMac simply because I was curious, people were telling me "it will change your life, you’ll never look back" yes, it did, change my bank balance, and I was looking back at how logical my PC was to use compared to my cryptic illogical Mac.
Apple are good, but over priced, and your locked into the Mac ecosystem, which I hate.

I've been building PCs since the 486 days, but when the M1 Air came out I decided it would be great to have a laptop without a fan, and the price was decent enough.The OS was confusing at first and I still hate Finder, but I've adjusted to using both OS's. Enough so that I bought a M4 Mini for the composition side of the studio, though I still use the PC workstation for Samplitude, Vegas and gaming. Most software is cross platform these days so I don't feel locked down on the Mac, but ironically enough the PC because of Samplitude and gaming Agree about Microsoft's direction though, they're trying so hard to cram AI and Ads into their ecosystem that stability is suffering and annoyance is rising, and the fate of Samplitude is uncertain in Boris' hands. The end of our decades long relationship may be on the horizon.

[Arpangel]

I'm not really making any particular point ... just how it seems to me ...

I bet you have a modular hi-fi. You might even turn your nose up at an all-in-one hi-fi because they're for cloth-eared consumers. "Oh, I could never get a modular hi-fi to work. The wires, you know."

I like my modular computer, which isn't glued together, and I can replace the NVMe drive if I want to.

Have I ever owned an all in one hi-fi? no.
I just can’t seem to find one that sounds really nice, plus, you can chop and change with separates, and if one thing breaks, you don’t have to replace the lot.

[MarkOne]

Well, the M1 MBP served me very well and that replaced an early 2012 Intel MBP which just cruised along with Logic for near on a decade. The only reason for the recent upgrade is I need a lightweight laptop to work on the train for my business and I didn't need a powerhouse, so Studio > Mac mini, work portability > Entry level Air (Which with an M4 would probably eat any logic project for breakfast too)

So while I sometimes ponder the idea that upgrading might be nice, history shows that I never really needed it.

As to hifi I did use to be a died in the wool separates guy.

But since getting the KEF LS50 wireless, the only other separate I need is the turntable (and that is purely nostalgic if I'm honest).

Now it's just 2 speakers, with the amps in them, two mains leads and an. HDMI to the telly... And a fast wifi connection for streaming from out there in the cloud or off the NAS (Which I guess could be thought of as a separate, but it does a bunch of other stuff on the network, so I don't see it like that)

I really do not miss the spaghetti at all!