File import?

[cton58]

I’m running Studio one 3…. Yes 3
Is there a way to import songs you have purchased from iTunes?
Studio prompts file not supported.. I believe it’s mp4??
Is there a “back door” way to import songs from iTunes to a track on studio one?

[Tomás Mulcahy]

Might be a DRM protected file, buti f it is a recently purchased file (iTunes+) it is DRM free so you can convert it to WAV in iTunes and import that into Studio One.

[ef37a]

If you can play it you can save it! Many interfaces can do that now but if not Audacity will. Then you need to..."export as .wav"

Dave.

[cton58]

Thanks. I got it done.

[Tomás Mulcahy]

If you can play it you can save it! Many interfaces can do that now but if not Audacity will. Then you need to..."export as .wav"

Dave.

Not true. If you're playing streamed audio, Audiacty on its own cannot "open" it or even record it.

[ef37a]

If you can play it you can save it! Many interfaces can do that now but if not Audacity will. Then you need to..."export as .wav"

Dave.

Not true. If you're playing streamed audio, Audiacty on its own cannot "open" it or even record it.

Well I do! Anything I can hear on my laptop I can record. Either with my MOTU M4 "loop thru" or Audacity. You have to set the latter up to do it mind.

Dave.

[Tomás Mulcahy]

Right, so you have something external to Audacity that will route audio from the system in to it. It’s not a feature within Audacity.

[FrankF]

If you can play it you can save it! Many interfaces can do that now but if not Audacity will. Then you need to..."export as .wav"

Dave.

Not true. If you're playing streamed audio, Audiacty on its own cannot "open" it or even record it.

I'll raise your Not True with a True:

"You can install the optional FFmpeg library to import a much larger range of audio formats including AC3, M4A, MP4 and WMA (if the files are not DRM-protected to work only in particular software).

FFmpeg will also import audio from most video files or DVDs that are not DRM-protected."

[ef37a]

Right, so you have something external to Audacity that will route audio from the system in to it. It’s not a feature within Audacity.

Seems to be! All I know is, prior to W10 (never had 8 so don't know) there was a function in Windows Sound called. IIRC "Stereo Mix". This allowed you to record any sound running through the computer. This was dropped in ten, I think due some DRM pressure?

This Lenovo T510 does not have any form of audio input and I tried all the dodges and tricks I could find on the web to record internal sounds but nothing worked. Obviously I could not even use the crude trick of a jack plug I/O link.
Then I read that Audacity could be setup to do this. More in hope than expectation I had a hack and lo! Bloody worked!

As I say, my M4 has the internal loop thru' so I can do the same thing simply recording on the virtual tracks 5&6 as well as 1,2 and 3,4 if I wished.

Dave.

[Tomás Mulcahy]

I'll raise your Not True with a True:

"You can install the optional FFmpeg library to import a much larger range of audio formats including AC3, M4A, MP4 and WMA (if the files are not DRM-protected to work only in particular software).

FFmpeg will also import audio from most video files or DVDs that are not DRM-protected."

I think you might be confusing a purchased file with a locally cached file of an audio stream which are AES encrypted with a unique device key. Put simply, streamed audio is not a file as such. So it is still not true.

Right, so you have something external to Audacity that will route audio from the system in to it. It’s not a feature within Audacity.

Seems to be! All I know is, prior to W10 (never had 8 so don't know) there was a function in Windows Sound called. IIRC "Stereo Mix".

It's WASAPI on Windows. But on a Mac M4 you need one of the Rogue Amoeba products to do it.

[ef37a]

Ah! Been a while since I have done this, got the MOTU see. This only works if you DON'T have an ASIO capable USB interface plugged in.
You also need to set Audacity to Win WASAPI drivers and the input and output for the internal soundcard. Just captured ZZ Top official video sound, Gimme...

So, I still maintain, if you can hear it, you can record it. Obviously you have to monitor via the headphone jack. Blue tooth might also work?

Dave.

[Tomás Mulcahy]

My point is, it is not the default configuration on Windows, user has to set it to WASAPI. On Mac it requires third party software to be installed. It's not universal or a standard setting of the OS. So your maxim is not a maxim

[ConcertinaChap]

Just for completeness here's how to do loopback on a Mac using UAD's Apollo:

https://help.uaudio.com/hc/en-us/articl ... in-Console

CC

[ef37a]

My point is, it is not the default configuration on Windows, user has to set it to WASAPI. On Mac it requires third party software to be installed. It's not universal or a standard setting of the OS. So your maxim is not a maxim

Well, it never was a default configuration in Windows as I remember? Everything has to be setup in "Sounds" like getting rid of those pesky bleeps and bloops. From Win 10 the facility was blocked. Whether a really clever IT bod could dig it out I don't know? I know Jack about macs.

Neither is it a default in Audacity but then once again, just about everything we do with computer audio needs some form of setting up.

So I shall STILL say..."In Windows if you can HEAR it you CAN record it." (in any case you COULD record the headphone output)

Dave.

[Hugh Robjohns]

Not true. If you're playing streamed audio, Audiacty on its own cannot "open" it or even record it.

Half true!

Audacity can not record the stream directly, but it can record the decoded stream as it is routed through to the computer's output device.

Recording desktop audio | Audacity Support https://share.google/f0EAuEXnefaYVBGeV

[ef37a]

Not true. If you're playing streamed audio, Audiacty on its own cannot "open" it or even record it.

Half true!

Audacity can not record the stream directly, but it can record the decoded stream as it is routed through to the computer's output device.

Recording desktop audio | Audacity Support https://share.google/f0EAuEXnefaYVBGeV

And I assume Hugh, that is all the pre W10 function did?

Dave.

[Tomás Mulcahy]

Not true. If you're playing streamed audio, Audiacty on its own cannot "open" it or even record it.

Half true!

Audacity can not record the stream directly, but it can record the decoded stream as it is routed through to the computer's output device.

Recording desktop audio | Audacity Support https://share.google/f0EAuEXnefaYVBGeV

What I am trying to say is not on its own, because it needs WASAPI, as it states in the link. As I said already. They really should update that information because it refers to Soundflower which does not even work on Intel Macs, even though they mention lack of silicon support. Maybe I am being Mac-centric lol.

[Hugh Robjohns]

Yes, maybe...

[junkmale]

All I know is, prior to W10 (never had 8 so don't know) there was a function in Windows Sound called. IIRC "Stereo Mix". This allowed you to record any sound running through the computer. This was dropped in ten, I think due some DRM pressure?

"Stereo MIx" is still available in Win10, but it's disabled by default.

You need to go into Device Manager, turn on "Show hidden devices" and then enable it.

There is a proviso that your soundcard driver needs to support this function.

e.g. - the driver for the onboard audio in my HP desktop does support Stereo Mix, the driver for my external ESi audio interface doesn't.

[ef37a]

All I know is, prior to W10 (never had 8 so don't know) there was a function in Windows Sound called. IIRC "Stereo Mix". This allowed you to record any sound running through the computer. This was dropped in ten, I think due some DRM pressure?

"Stereo MIx" is still available in Win10, but it's disabled by default.

You need to go into Device Manager, turn on "Show hidden devices" and then enable it.

There is a proviso that your soundcard driver needs to support this function.

e.g. - the driver for the onboard audio in my HP desktop does support Stereo Mix, the driver for my external ESi audio interface doesn't.

Yay, not listed for this Lenovo T510. Lot of things are listed including a "Tee sink to sink converter" whatever that might be!

Dave.

[junkmale]

Yay, not listed for this Lenovo T510. Lot of things are listed including a "Tee sink to sink converter" whatever that might be!
Dave.

yah, unfortunately Stereo Mix doesn't seem to be available on the T510 runnning Win10.
there seem to be a few owners unhappy about it being missing, and various attempts to hack older audio drivers to get the functionality back with varying degrees of success/failure.

I'd suggest when the time comes to replace the lappy, if Stereo Mix is something you miss (I certainly find it very useful) checking it's available on any new lappy you're looking at before shelling out the hard-earned.

[ef37a]

Yay, not listed for this Lenovo T510. Lot of things are listed including a "Tee sink to sink converter" whatever that might be!
Dave.

yah, unfortunately Stereo Mix doesn't seem to be available on the T510 runnning Win10.
there seem to be a few owners unhappy about it being missing, and various attempts to hack older audio drivers to get the functionality back with varying degrees of success/failure.

I'd suggest when the time comes to replace the lappy, if Stereo Mix is something you miss (I certainly find it very useful) checking it's available on any new lappy you're looking at before shelling out the hard-earned.

Not fussed. As I said, Audacity stepped into the breach and now I have loopthru' with the M4.

Dave.

[FrankF]

The loop-through function is brilliant, innit?
I watched a 1940s film with Honor Blackman yesterday: lawks-a-mercy she was beautiful, and her voice wasn't bad either, so I copied a few samples of her attempts at a Yorkshire accent.

I mean, it wasn't quite Amos Brierley, but it was passable like, aye.

If only Audacity did high quality stills captures from YouTube.

[Stratman57]

The stereo mix function is disabled on both my Lenovo and my Dell, however there is a way to record audio and video that is playing by using the Windows game bar. To access it you need to press the Windows and G keys simultaneously. This brings up a panel with the record function, click the record function and it will record an MP4 video of whatever is playing on the screen.

It's mainly used for recording game play, but it works a treat with YouTube or Amazon Music. If you don't want the video, just open the file in you DAW of choice and then render the audio only to a new file.

Regards, Simon.

[ajay_m]

This is a very clever piece of software https://vb-audio.com/Matrix/ and I have tested it and it works remarkably well for connecting almost anything to anything in Windows. Of course I'm a bit spoilt because my little DM3 has the amazing ability to act as multiple audio devices, allowing various bits of software like OBS to have control of their own stereo audio device without interfering with any other piece of software, so you can have three stereo audio devices all under exclusive control of their own windows apps, plus one more 12 channel device (that you would connect to a DAW) all routing back into the desk - or you can configure it as a single 18:18 USB audio interface. I don't know any other devices that can do this, but I stand to be corrected.