Editing Automation In Cubase 5

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Editing Automation In Cubase 5

Post by TM19 »

I hope somebody can help me on this problem?

I have drawn in some automation on a lead guitar audio track in Cubase 5 to compensate for the different levels within the track in order that every lick is heard within the mix.

Now my problem is that I want to amend the overall level of this track whilst preserving the automation, is there a way of selecting the whole automation line/data and increase or decrease the overall level by a certain value or percentage?

Thanks, Tm
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Re: Editing Automation In Cubase 5

Post by Richie Royale »

Provided there is sufficient space to move the automation down, you could select it all and pull it down, but this can be fiddly. Not sure which button you use on a PC, but on a Mac I use the Apple key (I think it is Alt on the PC) to keep everything aligned.

You could turn down the gain on the channel or send it to a buss and turn that down. The former may affect any inserts you have the channel though and the latter may cause some balance problems if you are using a send on the channel.
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Re: Editing Automation In Cubase 5

Post by The Elf »

A perennial problem, and one that makes me avoid automation wherever possible. The simplest way is to send the track to a group channel and use the groups gain/fader as the level trimmer, or automate the group instead and use the channel fader as the trimmer.
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Re: Editing Automation In Cubase 5

Post by onesecondglance »

various ways:

1) select all the automation points using marquee selection (select tool > left click > drag selection area). in the inspector line it will give you the info for one of the points (usually the first one you selected). alter the volume level there and the difference will be applied to all the points.

e.g.

you have three automation points at 0, 1, and 2. you select them all as above. the inspector line shows the volume for the first point (0). you change this to -2. the three automation points now have the values -2, -1, and 0.

2) insert a plug in such as the cubase limiter and adjust the settings so it's effectively doing nothing (e.g. the limiter threshold is set so it should never kick in). this plug in is now effectively a gain adjuster and you can change the level of the track by changing the output volume of the plug in.

3) select the audio parts themselves and set a different volume for them in the inspector line.

4) route your track to a group and change the volume from there.

hope this helps!
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Re: Editing Automation In Cubase 5

Post by TM19 »

Thank you everyone for your kind help on this matter, won't get a chance to try any of these suggestions for a few days but will report back asap.

Thank you, Tm
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Re: Editing Automation In Cubase 5

Post by zenguitar »

Or how about a simple gain VST, like GVST GGain. A simple one knob VST that should use very little resource.

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Re: Editing Automation In Cubase 5

Post by Mixedup »

Not sure what the big issue is here?!

Just go to the relevant (ie fader level) controller lane. Right-click (or cntrl-click on mac) and choose 'select all events'. Then click on one and drag up and down. Or press Alt (I think) and click and drag to keep them all at exactly the point in the timeline while dragging up or down. You can do this with multiple lanes or tracks selected so you can attenuate all at once.

FWIW, the functionality has improved in C6 (or was it in 5.5, I can't recall).

I also regularly user the GVST GGain gainer plug-in in the post fader insert slots for fine-tuning tweakery. But the more layers of gain management you have, the more confusing a big mix can become — particularly when it comes to re-opening an archived project. That's why I prefer to raise/lower the overall automation level.
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