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Korg 01/Wfd midi setup in cubase- midi activity but no acces

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:headbang: I've just set up a new system with ASUS ZEN desktop PC with Win10 +Steinberg UR242 Interface,supplied with Cubase LE AI Elements9 and recently acquired a Korg01/Wfd keyboard to use with it.[I have used Cubase4 Win XPSP3 with Korg keyboard+Roland sound modules for years with good results]
The korg01/W works fine 'Local on' in global settings on K/Board,all sound banks working when not plugged into Cubase.Installation as follows: Device manager- 01Korg selected and banks/combinations/programs are shown in Inspector [output 2-Steinberg UR242-1] and All MIDI inputs selected.When I try to' Import setup' in device manager cubase directs me to an empty folder - 'Track Pictures' looking for a steinberg xml file (.xml),which does not exist.
In cubase with 'local off' set on k/board in global settings,i can input+edit notes using HalionSE + Groove Agent,no problem.When I change output to Korg01/W settings in inspector there is MIDI input activity shown,but no sound.I received some info today to suggest it might be the MIDI channel out settings on Korg,so how do I fix it?
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Re: Korg 01/Wfd midi setup in cubase- midi activity but no acces

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MIDI is data, nothing to do with audio. To record audio, you need to connect the audio outs of the keyboard to inputs on your soundcard and add an audio track to monitor the audio.

In Cubase, you need a MIDI track with the MIDI ins/outs of the keyboard selected for routing and an audio track/s set to monitor to hear the keyboard's sounds.

There are tons of device maps in Cubase that aren't populated, but are there as a template for you to write your own. Usually, the maker of the device has them on their site, or users posted them to their forum. That's the XML fil you need. This would let you control the keyboard from the DAW, but it's not critical to just capture audio and MIDI.

To play a VSTi inside Cubase, with the lower versions you need to use an instrument track with the keyboard as the input and the VSTi as the output.
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Did some Googling, this is a good guide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW9i_-yhypw
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mashedmitten wrote:MIDI is data, nothing to do with audio. To record audio, you need to connect the audio outs of the keyboard to inputs on your soundcard and add an audio track to monitor the audio.

In Cubase, you need a MIDI track with the MIDI ins/outs of the keyboard selected for routing and an audio track/s set to monitor to hear the keyboard's sounds.

There are tons of device maps in Cubase that aren't populated, but are there as a template for you to write your own. Usually, the maker of the device has them on their site, or users posted them to their forum. That's the XML fil you need. This would let you control the keyboard from the DAW, but it's not critical to just capture audio and MIDI.

To play a VSTi inside Cubase, with the lower versions you need to use an instrument track with the keyboard as the input and the VSTi as the output.

Thanks for info.Looks like the xml file is the missing link in the chain.I'll check with Korg + Steinberg,meantime,I'll check your youtube link. Thanks
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The Import process in Device Manager has been broken recently. Even if Steinberg have fixed it it's irrelevant to this issue anyway, so ignore it. If you've created a device, then remove it - it is clouding the issue for the moment.

Make sure you have the correct physical MIDI *output* selected in Cubase's Inspector, i.e. the one to which you have attached your Korg's MIDI *input*, and that you are using a MIDI channel that is active in the Korg. Don't forget that Cubase re-channelises incoming MIDI to the channel selected in the Inspector, so the Korg's output MIDI channel doesn't matter.

A good idea is to set everything to MIDI Channel 1 for starters.
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Welcome to the SOS Forums KeyGit1Man! 8-)

There, I told you there would be plenty of answers if you asked on the SOS Forums :thumbup:

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KeyGit1Man wrote:Thanks for info.Looks like the xml file is the missing link in the chain.I'll check with Korg + Steinberg,meantime,I'll check your youtube link. Thanks

I checked in Cubase, there appear to be differences between the full and cut versions, but the cut versions come bundled with hardware so it must be implemented in some fashion.

Make sure to watch that vid. I looked at the Device Panel for the Korg and it appears to be complete. Make sure you select the correct MIDI device in the Add Panel dialog and select that as the output of the MIDI track. You'll be able to select patches via the Inspector Window and have the keyboard respond.
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Martin Walker wrote:Welcome to the SOS Forums KeyGit1Man! 8-)

There, I told you there would be plenty of answers if you asked on the SOS Forums :thumbup:

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Thanks martin,I'm still trawling through the info,but it looks like there is an issue withAI Elements9 and a missing xml file :headbang:
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mashedmitten wrote:
KeyGit1Man wrote:Thanks for info.Looks like the xml file is the missing link in the chain.I'll check with Korg + Steinberg,meantime,I'll check your youtube link. Thanks

I checked in Cubase, there appear to be differences between the full and cut versions, but the cut versions come bundled with hardware so it must be implemented in some fashion.

Make sure to watch that vid. I looked at the Device Panel for the Korg and it appears to be complete. Make sure you select the correct MIDI device in the Add Panel dialog and select that as the output of the MIDI track. You'll be able to select patches via the Inspector Window and have the keyboard respond.

I'm going to go through this now so i'll be about an hour,then i'll let you know what we have got. Thanks for info
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Thanks to mashed mitten, The Elf and Martin Walker for valuable info.I've fixed the problem! In the project window I set up Audio 1and Midi 1 directly underneath the Audio track, activated monitor in both - Hey Presto! - sounds from Korg which I can select at will, from the Inspector! The Korg display shows the changes simultaneously,that didnt happen before.
The UR242 inputs 3/4 from the Korg,were deactivated, -stupid schoolboy mistake-I should have double checked everything.
many thanks.
PS: Nothing to do with missing xml files that dont exist,-all the sound banks/programs +combinations loaded 1st time.
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Glad you got it sorted.

Yes, in your case the XML file wasn't needed, I was going from your first post and my boggy memory. You can build a device panel for any MIDI device and control it from Cubase, if desired.
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KeyGit1Man wrote:Thanks to mashed mitten, The Elf and Martin Walker for valuable info.I've fixed the problem!

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One other item I've found. You do not need to muck about with' Local On/Off' in Global settings on the Korg..it works fine with Local On [default] when powered up.
Overall,I'm impressed with the UR242 interface[once you set it up correctly] and mine came with Cubase LE AI Elements9 which I like,easy to use, not as complicated as Cubase4. HalionSE + Groove Agent are a bonus too. I highly rate it
Thanks again all..I've got my artistic spark back!
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KeyGit1Man wrote: You do not need to muck about with' Local On/Off' in Global settings on the Korg

Not for what you're doing right now, but never say never. ;)
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KeyGit1Man wrote:One other item I've found. You do not need to muck about with' Local On/Off' in Global settings on the Korg..it works fine with Local On [default] when powered up.

Local Off is a life-saver when that keyboard is your master keyboard and you still want to use its on-board sounds. When you need it you will understand.
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The Elf wrote:Local Off is a life-saver when that keyboard is your master keyboard and you still want to use its on-board sounds. When you need it you will understand.

Just listen out for unexpected phasing because you've got a MIDI loop and start playing two or more instances of each note you play :beamup:

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