Cubase automation

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Re: Cubase automation

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top sound wrote:Also I have recorded the vocal as a stereo mix so that probably wasn't a good idea

It's not a terrible thing, but it's wasteful of disk space and may lead to other confusion/problems later.

top sound wrote:If I can upload a couple of the songs would anyone one be interested in listening and give me your opion?

It's what we do here - any time you're ready! :D
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Re: Cubase automation

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Well I don't think I will be getting any nominations for producer of the year that's for sure which is the easiest way to upload ?
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Re: Cubase automation

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Most people use Soundcloud. Sort out your account with them and then place a link to your content here.
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Ok I shall post a link tomorrow have tried to do it from my iPad with sound cloud doesn't seem to give me an option
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Re: Cubase automaton

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ok guys ive put 3 songs ive recorded from cubase using backing tracks
one of the songs was copyrighted from the karaoke channel in fact they will all be as they are madonna songs
hopefully i wont get sued im just looking for your opinion on the recordings so this is my 1st attempt at putting together a track what do you think
my user number on soundcloud is 570193929 im not sure how to send a link to here just yet i would love your feedback be gentle imnot a proffesional
thanks :crazy:
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Re: Cubase automation

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top sound wrote:Hi mike got it thanks !
I'm just having trouble getting the vocal to sit in the mix properly I'm not a professional so that is problem !

Book a half day class with the Elf and he will not only sort out any queries you may have but he's a Cubase Jedi.
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Re: Cubase automaton

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top sound wrote:im not sure how to send a link

It's simple. Go to your track on Soundcloud; click on 'Share' just underneath the track; copy the text link it provides; when you create your forum post, add a URL and paste the text link you've copied into the URL dialogue.
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Re: Cubase automaton

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Listening to 'Open Your Heart'...

There's something very strange going on. I'm hearing the vocal wandering around the stereo stage, almost as if you have an auto-panner on it. This needs fixing.

I suspect that this could be about your recording the vocal as a stereo track and then falling into some sort of mono/stereo trap - maybe adding a mono insert processor to a stereo track? You could convert the stereo vocal track to a mono one, but a quick fix would be to route the stereo track to a mono Group track, pan the stereo track hard to one side, and then do all your processing in the mono Group. Make sure that you remove all processing from the stereo track.

As to the vocal... It is performed reasonably well, but it does need some tuning work. To do it properly you will likely need Cubase's VariAudio to help you out. It's a bit advanced, maybe, based on where you are right now, but maybe it would be worth digging into it as a learning exercise. Failing that you could try Cubase's Pitch Correct as a quick fix and see how that sounds.

To the mix... The vocal is much too loud in relation to the backing and need some dynamic control to sit it back into the mix. Tonally it's not bad, but there's a fair bit of mid resonance that would be worth taming to remove the sense of congestion. The reverb sounds a bit too heavy to me, but with the vocal sitting back in the mix it might work.

The intro piano is very loud, then the backing drops down in volume, which sounds strange. Both the intro and ending are not at all helpful and they sound glued on. The sounds in the intro and ending are also not at all good. I'd lose both of them.

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Re: Cubase automation

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Elf thanks for taking the time to listen
Ok I'm getting the idea now
The original vocal was recorded as stereo I think your right there's probably too much reverb on it there
I used a mackie pro fx mixer the reverb came from that I didn't use cubase for that originally as the latency was quite high i. Using asio4all driver so I will try to take some of the reverb off and make it into a mono track
In terms of processing the vocal if I remember I think I used a plate reverb basically just trying out which ones sounded the best again still inexperienced in that department I used the cubase pitch correct although I don't think it's set up right
The intro isn't very good I was going to use the my rd800 for that as it has a really good bright pad/bells sound sampled from a Roland d50
As we are doing a Madonna tribute I'm trying to make it more live when we are playing it's difficult when there only me (keyboard player) ,!
But in terms of recording I'm still on a learning curve
I did a course at college NCFE music technology a few years back but we didn't go very deep into cubase so a lot of knowledge I've kind of gained from you tube
It would be great to spend time with someone who uses this a.l the time so I can pick up some tips it's a bit difficult when your just using s forum
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Re: Cubase automation

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You mentioning ASIO4ALL suggests that you don't have an audio interface with native ASIO drivers? This may be something to address before you go much further. How are you currently getting audio in/out of your computer?

A few of us on these fora do provide personal tutoring/mentoring. Zukan and myself are two of them. Depending on where you are based one of us may be able to help. Drop me a PM if you are interested and I can give you more details, as we discourage personal promotion on the open forum.

I would suggest re-recording that vocal. Something is clearly amiss, and you're not going to remove much of that reverb without some significant side-effects - you will be compounding the problems and creating new ones.
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Re: Cubase automation

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Hi elf
No I don't have an audio interface just yet I'm using the mixers built in one or what ever that is
I will have to re do the vocals on all the tracks and start again that might be easier for me they were done in one take pretty much
I will do a couple takes of each and use the best one or parts of it
I'm in Stoke by the way
I'm taking all the advice in it's really useful
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Re: Cubase automation

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I actually have another regular pupil in Stoke, so no problem for me. Just let me know if you're interested.

How are you connecting the mixer to the computer? USB? Which exact model mixer is it? What mic make/model? How are you connecting mic to mixer?

The more details we have, the easier to comment on what you're doing.
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Re: Cubase automation

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Mixer is mackie pro fx12 connected via usb to the laptop I'm not sure what the mic is it's the singers I will ask her tommorow
It's connected via mic lead into the mixer I'd be interested in the tutoring I will pm you tommorow
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