Can I run UAD plug-ins on Satellite without UA interface?

[Watchmaker]

https://media.uaudio.com/support/manuals/v9110-n3iFu67R/UAD%20System%20Manual.pdf

[santellavision]

Thanks everyone for the replies.

First, I cannot get the Friedman plugin to show up in my Pro Tools plugin list. It does show up in the Console plugin list. Someone here said it will show up, weird, I don't see it.

So, bottom line, it sounds like you cannot track with the Friedman plugin in realtime without Apollo hardware. Sucks for me as I don't have that I/O. I am going to ask for a refund as they don't specifically say you MUST have both the UAD2 AND APOLLO hardware.

Thanks again for the help.

[Hugh Robjohns]

First, I cannot get the Friedman plugin to show up in my Pro Tools plugin list.

Are you sure the plugin is located in a directory where Pro Tools is looking for plugins?

Are you sure Pro Tools has refreshed its plugin directory after you installed the Friedman plugin?

So, bottom line, it sounds like you cannot track with the Friedman plugin in realtime without Apollo hardware. Sucks for me as I don't have that I/O. I am going to ask for a refund as they don't specifically say you MUST have both the UAD2 AND APOLLO hardware.

You definitely don't need both devices; the plugin will run on any UAD DSP accelerator platform -- I don't have an Apollo myself either, but I can run the Friedman quite happily on my own UAD-2 Quad PCI card.

As to whether you can track through the plugin in real time... that depends on how you've configured Pro Tools. Although it should certainly be possible to set things up so that you can hear (and record) yourself playing through the plugin, if you're using UAD's Satellite or PCIe DSP accelerator the latency involved might be too long to make a good performance viable.

One advantage of the Apollo interface hardware is that the DSP engine is integrated directly into the interface itself, which avoids the latencies involved in running audio into the computer and back out to the DSP. The Apollo interfaces also has the 'Unison Preamp' feature whereby suitable preamp plugins -- including the Friedman -- can automatically configure the hardware's input impedance to better match the modeled hardware.

However, while configurable input impedance might be nice to have, it's not essential. Just plug into your existing interface using the high-impedance input as usual.

Finally, the Friedman plugin was developed by Brainworx, and they also sell other versions of Friedman amps which run as standard native AAX/AU/VST plugin for use in systems without a UAD-2 hardware accelerator which also suggests there is no inherent requirement for the Apollo hardware.

H

[G-Doubleyou]

The Friedman supports the unison preamp features, that match the impedance on the hi-z inputs of an Apollo. ( sometimes you hear relays clicking to set up the resistive network.)
All processing is done before the signal reaches your DAW.

You should be able to use the plug in your Daw channel strip.

I do it all the time on tracks I've already recorded.

[stavrakas]

Thanks everyone.

Told you it was a silly question. Now I know it can be done.

Another Yes from me. Have been running UAD Sat 2 Quad Firewire on my Win d/top, RME UFX+ for years with no issues whatsoever. Also have been running same system on t/bolt enabled Win laptop (connected via thunderbolt adaptor cable).

Stavros

[tobyhorton]

Yes. According to Ron from uad you can. This was my response.

Hi, Toby.

Thanks for contacting Universal Audio support.

You do not need an Apollo to run the UAD plug-ins with the Satellite. The Satellite will run the plug-ins inside of your DAW.

Please let me know if you have any questions.
Best Regards,

Ron