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sc1460 wrote:...except i cant even find any c50a's in stock in the uk! whats going on.....


Avantone Pro on 15th October 2011 wrote:We expect our first arrival of MixCubes in New York in about 10 days. Allowing a few days to check them out, fulfill lots of orders, and get them on pallets to Europe; I would say that we're at the end of the month!!!

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Hi sc1460!

Probably another week to go before they arrive in Europe.

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The German company has stopped answering my emails about them being sold separately.

I am broke at the moment anyway so can wait but will most likely go for the Behringer.
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I'll be patient!

Martin Walker wrote:
sc1460 wrote:...except i cant even find any c50a's in stock in the uk! whats going on.....


Avantone Pro on 15th October 2011 wrote:We expect our first arrival of MixCubes in New York in about 10 days. Allowing a few days to check them out, fulfill lots of orders, and get them on pallets to Europe; I would say that we're at the end of the month!!!

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Hi sc1460!

Probably another week to go before they arrive in Europe.

Martin

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Has anyone found anywhere in Europe that's selling the Behringer C50s?
I'm based in Denmark, but have had no luck locating them (although the C5a appears to be in plentiful stock, and at a very reasonable price!).

Ta very much in advance.
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sweetwater.com in the US says they get stock of avantone mixcube on 11th November - so i guess UK wont see any until after this date?
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,,,oh and interesting pricing on the behringers at thomann - the difference is so small that you wouldnt choose on price alone but on how grotty you wanted the grotbox to be I guess??!!

c5a = £145 for a pair incl vat + delivery

c50a = £170 for a pair incl vat + delivery

If they sold them as singles you could buy 1 of each - I wonder whether a comparison across 2 grot boxes would really be of any help? I cant think why. Mr Senior? PS When is that SoS review going to happen?
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My pair of Active Mixcubes arrived today. I must say I am very impressed with the quality of its components. Solid piece of equipment. From my experience with Behringer, I doubt they use components of equal quality...:headbang:

After a quick test I found out these mixcubes are a great addition to my current monitors (Dynaudio BM5a mk2), and will aid me in making critical midrange mixing decisions. Can't wait to use them on my projects! 8-)
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sc1460 wrote:I wonder whether a comparison across 2 grot boxes would really be of any help? I cant think why. Mr Senior? PS When is that SoS review going to happen?

When I get a C50. The C5 is already hear, and I've been using it for a while, but the C50 still hasn't reached me and I've had it on order for a month or so. I'm doing my best! :)
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,,,oh and interesting pricing on the behringers at thomann - the difference is so small that you wouldnt choose on price alone but on how grotty you wanted the grotbox to be I guess??!!

Nice spot there! Anyone in DK wanna go halves on a pair..?
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The C5 is already hear, and I've been using it for a while

Instead of your Mixcube, Mike? Or as a supplement?
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sambrox wrote:
The C5 is already hear, and I've been using it for a while

Instead of your Mixcube, Mike? Or as a supplement?

Alongside.
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Mike Senior wrote:
sambrox wrote:
The C5 is already hear, and I've been using it for a while

Instead of your Mixcube, Mike? Or as a supplement?

Alongside.

Ah I see, ta. I guess you can never have too many different classes of monitor to reference on (and I'm guessing that the C5s are more intentionally 'Lo-fi' than the Mixcubes...?).
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Still waiting for mixcubes to be in stock.

sigh.
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I got an email saying 'we've got them in stock'. I mailed back asking if they sell them individually. No reply. That was last week.
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Dales Pro Audio emailed Friday and said they are shipping a black mixcube out to me from New York.
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Just wanted to say, real quick. This is a real informative piece of gear.

We've all heard and discussed the reasons why... playing my own home brew against my favorite commercial mixes, real informative.
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Thanks for the feedback Raynorshyn - I'm still debating whether or not to go for the single black Avantone Mixcube for around £220, or a pair of almost identical looking Behringer C50A Behritone clones of the same that Thomann are currently selling for just £165 (making each one just £82 if a friend and I split the cost and have one each!)

I know the Mixcubes will 'sound' better, but if a grot box does its job properly then this is a HUGE difference in cost :headbang:

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Well I've just ordered a black pair of Mixcubes from these guys for £377. So that's Jaminem and me sorted!

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Woohoo!

Or

Finally... :headbang:
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sambrox wrote:
,,,oh and interesting pricing on the behringers at thomann - the difference is so small that you wouldnt choose on price alone but on how grotty you wanted the grotbox to be I guess??!!

Nice spot there! Anyone in DK wanna go halves on a pair..?

I've actually got a spare C5a, and depending on whether Mike comes to the conclusion that both models are actually useful in combination, I would also be interested in buying a set of c50a and splitting that too.

I live in Aarhus btw.
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Martin Walker wrote:I know the Mixcubes will 'sound' better, but if a grot box does its job properly then this is a HUGE difference in cost

I know what you mean. However, the strength of the Avantone for me is that it isn't a 'grotbox' as such, whereas the C5A does seem to be much more a grotbox so far. Still haven't had the C50, though, so I'm still on the fence about overall value of each of these.
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RasmusHoell wrote:
sambrox wrote:
,,,oh and interesting pricing on the behringers at thomann - the difference is so small that you wouldnt choose on price alone but on how grotty you wanted the grotbox to be I guess??!!

Nice spot there! Anyone in DK wanna go halves on a pair..?

I've actually got a spare C5a, and depending on whether Mike comes to the conclusion that both models are actually useful in combination, I would also be interested in buying a set of c50a and splitting that too.

I live in Aarhus btw.

Excellent! I'm in! If the C50s turn out to be a dud, I'm also fresh on buying a set of Mixcubes and splitting them. I'm in København, but can easily arrange transport to and from Aarhus. Nice one
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Concertina chap just delivered me a spangly new black active mixcube!!

Upon first listen, its testament to just how good Wasting Light sounds, that even a Mixcube can reproduce it well...

I really see the point of those reference tracks now....
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Sadly, although I have my Mixcube of the pair and have wired it in I can't try it out because the carols band is practising not 10 feet away ...

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Well I couldnt wait to track down one Mixcube (only pairs) so I ordered x1 C50a for a bargain price. REVELATION. So thats why producers used auratones and NS10s - but how could they listen to them for any length of time?

Basically my first reaction to putting on a track I was mixing was "it will burn out my ears" - basically if you've overcooked your mid-range it will tell you in no uncertain terms. Mixes that sounded clear on my near-fields sounded messy on the C5a. But it was nice to hear my carefully layered kick drums cut through.

I cant believe I have done without a full range speaker for so long! Frankly if yr mixing for the iTunes generation, this is way more useful than a nearfield. But after 15 minutes my ears had had enough exposure I had to turn back to the lush sound of the nearfields!

I listened to commercial tracks - N-Dubz Against All Odds sounded harsh and bright; Adele sounded good but her voice sounded over EQed; Katie Perry TGIF - hardly any bass whatsoever, voice cut through it is so BRIGHT! Clearly some people arent checking their mixes with a grotbox enough? ;-) Its not LOUDNESS thats now the problem in pop, its brightness - all these songs were mixed way too bright for me.

And it was Mike Senior that got me to take notice of full range speakers - thanks Mike!

Well recommended and for the price of a single speaker that is less than 2 petrol refills in a saloon.
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