Sam Spoons wrote:X32 Producer, 22 analogue inputs, 14 analogue outputs, 32/32 USB I/O. Very flexible and expandable (up to 40/22 simultaneous physical I/O). The only downside is that it costs £1022. TBH if size is not an issue I'd spend the extra £133 and buy the Compact for it's LCD scribble strips.
Yes, I've been looking at those. Just a bit out of budget along with the SM7B but could be possible to find a way...
I looked at it in some detail a couple of weeks ago but not since, so will give it another examination. Thanks.
Stratman57 wrote:As you've already expressed an interest in the X-Touch, I would suggest getting a Behringer XR18 to go with it.
You'd then have an 18 in/out digital mixer/audio interface, both controllable by the X-Touch, 1 button push lets you switch between DAW control and mixer control.
I use this combination for studio and live applications. The stage box format also means that you don't have to have it taking up space on your desk.
Regards, Simon.
Thanks Simon, so you use an XR18 along with the X-Touch? I only want it for studio, not live. Any particular limitations or issues I should be aware of?
None that would affect use in the studio. I had to install an extension to get it to work properly with Reaper, but that's all. I use an additional monitor so I can have the X-Edit mixer app displayed on one and my DAW software displayed on the laptop screen.
The in built WiFi is not reliable enough for live use, but again that wouldn't be a problem in the studio. I originally bought the X-Touch for use live, as it's much easier to hit a physical mute button or pull down a physical fader than faffing about with the trackpad.
An X32 compact has gone on sale locally today second hand (about a year) allegedly in perfect condition, for 1000 euros (Thomman price is new is 1299 euros)...
Check the warrantee with Behringer and if they'll transfer it. I've had mine for a few years and it has been great and I'm not aware of any specific issues (Thomann reported lower than average returns for the X32 during it's first couple of years of production so reliability is generally good). There is a very good X32 user community here https://community.musictribe.com/search?query=X32&type=all but the forum software is truly horrible....
Sam Spoons wrote:Check the warrantee with Behringer and if they'll transfer it. I've had mine for a few years and it has been great and I'm not aware of any specific issues (Thomann reported lower than average returns for the X32 during it's first couple of years of production so reliability is generally good). There is a very good X32 user community here https://community.musictribe.com/search?query=X32&type=all but the forum software is truly horrible....
Thanks. I know you've followed this discussion (although I don't expect you to remember all my requirements!) but apart from being digital anything jump out as not fitting the bill for what I'd like?
Again, no worries if it's not immediately obvious, you're not my personal sales rep
Without rereading the whole thread nothing springs out, I'm just a happy X32 user (and early adopter). The DAW control setup is not intuitive but I haven't tried the X-Touch so not sure how intuitive that is either. I'm thinking of moving fully into the box using the X32C as a surface but haven't taken that step yet, at present I use it as I would a mixer and outboard rack.
Other than that it either needs a computer or a recording card (which replaces the included USB interface card) to record more than stereo.
But if you're up for the initial steepish learning curve I'd say go for it. I have everything set up so that getting ready to start recording a new tune takes as long as my old Mac Pro takes to boot up. Once it's running I have channels assigned and labeled both in Reaper and on the X32 and a dozen or so instruments and mics ready to go.
Sam Spoons wrote:Not sure, they are decent but I think the SM7B used for speech needs a fair bit of gain so I would guess possibly not.
Thanks. I may actually have to compromise on the mic a bit anyway - but that is easier to upgrade in the near future when funds are a bit better. And if I can manage both, and need a fethead, they are only 66 euros or so. Need to doing some sums
Sam Spoons wrote:Without rereading the whole thread nothing springs out, I'm just a happy X32 user (and early adopter). The DAW control setup is not intuitive but I haven't tried the X-Touch so not sure how intuitive that is either. I'm thinking of moving fully into the box using the X32C as a surface but haven't taken that step yet, at present I use it as I would a mixer and outboard rack.
Other than that it either needs a computer or a recording card (which replaces the included USB interface card) to record more than stereo.
But if you're up for the initial steepish learning curve I'd say go for it. I have everything set up so that getting ready to start recording a new tune takes as long as my old Mac Pro takes to boot up. Once it's running I have channels assigned and labeled both in Reaper and on the X32 and a dozen or so instruments and mics ready to go.
I've read a bit and watch a few videos. Am I right in thinking to setup transport controls for Logic I'd use the Assign buttons?
I guess so but it is not something I have done, I bought a Stream Deck Mini for transport controls.
It's definitely worth joining the 'music tribe' forum if you can navigate the software. There are a lot of experienced and helpful X32 users on there. It's a little more formal but the atmosphere is surprisingly like this place.
Ok, I may have done this backwards - the mic was technically the most important part of getting my sound better for the podcast But I've just come back from collecting the X32 Compact Not had a chance to set it up yet, but exciting!
Now I need to list my Rubix 24 and get a few quid for that towards the mic
Thanks again for your help here. Sorry this started out as a Tascam thread and ended up as Behringer thread! Really do appreciate all your help. This is a really nice, friendly forum.
Thanks, I'm sure I will! Not even carried it upstairs yet (carrying it to the car and into the house was bad enough and I scratched and bruised my arms! )
resistorman wrote:Ha! You could have saved a whole lot of time asking me about Behringer desks in the beginning! But still love my Model 12 too.
No, I had to go through this process. I did hope I could get something cheaper, but everything I've looked at had features that I would miss (and in the case of the Model 12, also had features I don't need). I had my eye on some of the more expensive desks like the X32, the QU-16 etc but thought they were out of my budget and that's why I've been procrastinating so much. This still was out of my budget really, got to find a bit more for the mic now, but worth it.
But sometimes things are meant to be! The X32 was literally just listed on the second hand site. I've been watching a few sites constantly.
I'm sure - no, I know from what I've read - the Model 12 is a great device, it's just not right for me. Thanks for your help, and enjoy your desk too!
...hey resistorman ..considering you are a synth guy and have the model12 ...do you think the model12 can be midi synced to my cirklon sequencer ..and then put all my synth gear through a summing mixer into the model12 so that i can have quite a few bits of midi gear playing simultaneously with recorded analog stuff like guitars etc recorded on the model12..??
anything jump out as not fitting the bill for what I'd like?
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Be glad you didn't find a full sized X32 then.....