Melodyne or WavesTune?

[Bossman]

which do you prefer and why?

I already have Melodyne at home, and I like it.. it does the job well. But I've not tried Waves Tune.

I'm looking to buy one or the other for another studio that I work in. My personal preference would be to get Melodyne, simply because I know it already, and I could then transfer projects easily between home and studio.

But is there anything that the Waves Tune plugin does better than Melodyne. I need to convince the boss to get one or the other. and if the Waves Tune plugin is better than Melodyne then maybe we should get that.

[Sam Inglis]

If I remember right, Waves Tune is a real-time plug-in, more like Auto-Tune than Melodyne. As such it's quite easy to use -- if you're in a hurry you can just insert it over the vocal track and let it do its thing -- but you'll get better results with an off-line tool like Melodyne (and a bit of elbow grease).

[Bossman]

Do you still have a graphical view where you see blobs/notes of audio and you can manually drag notes up and down?.. or is it all just automatic like Logic's tuning plugin?

Do you have to transfer the audio in to the WavesTune plugin like you do with Melodyne? The only thing I dislike about Melodyne is that once you've transferred your audio into the plugin you can't edit the original audio because the audio plays from within Melodyne. Does it work like that with Waves Tune?

Does the Waves Tune plugin work with polyphonic audio like Melodyne does? and can you edit timing, modulation and amplitude like you can with Melodyne?

Also, can anyone tell me how the Waves Update Plan works?

[onesecondglance]

The only thing I dislike about Melodyne is that once you've transferred your audio into the plugin you can't edit the original audio because the audio plays from within Melodyne.

they're working on that i think. only available in Studio One v2 though so far (fingers crossed it'll make it to Cubase, although it wouldn't be unlike Steinberg to ignore this sort of thing in favour of their inbuilt tuning stuff).

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[Mixedup]

Which DAW is this studio using?

Really, unless you're into doing really detailed stuff, it's hard to see past Melodyne. Particularly if you want to work on polyphonic material, where the full version of Melodyne is the only thing that will do the job.

Though if using a DAW that isn't Studio One v2, and it has its own pitch/time facility built in (like Cubase VariAudio) maybe best stick with that.

Isn't there a demo of the Waves one? Why not just compare that against your own Melodyne and make your mind up based on what you hear/see?

[Bossman]

The only thing I dislike about Melodyne is that once you've transferred your audio into the plugin you can't edit the original audio because the audio plays from within Melodyne.

they're working on that i think.

oh good

[Bossman]

Which DAW is this studio using?

Logic pro mainly

Really, unless you're into doing really detailed stuff, it's hard to see past Melodyne. Particularly if you want to work on polyphonic material, where the full version of Melodyne is the only thing that will do the job.

thats my view too

Isn't there a demo of the Waves one? Why not just compare that against your own Melodyne and make your mind up based on what you hear/see?

yes, might have to do that.. I just wanted to hear from others that had used the Waves plugin.

[The Red Bladder]

If you want polyphonic tuning, you can choose between Melodyne or Melodyne. If you want the cleanest, the old Autotune hardware box is best, if you want a plug-in that works within a DAW, Reaper comes bundled with all the retuning and harmony stuff you will need.

[Sam Inglis]

Do you still have a graphical view where you see blobs/notes of audio and you can manually drag notes up and down?.. or is it all just automatic like Logic's tuning plugin?

It's been ages since I used it, but from memory, what happens is that you play your audio into it and it creates a 'map' of the pitches. Then you can either let it correct them automatically, or adjust the map yourself. But all processing happens in real time. So in that sense it's more like Auto-Tune where you can use automatic or graphical modes.

Do you have to transfer the audio in to the WavesTune plugin like you do with Melodyne? The only thing I dislike about Melodyne is that once you've transferred your audio into the plugin you can't edit the original audio because the audio plays from within Melodyne. Does it work like that with Waves Tune?

No, you just have to play the audio into Tune so it can create its map. It doesn't store audio itself.

Does the Waves Tune plugin work with polyphonic audio like Melodyne does? and can you edit timing, modulation and amplitude like you can with Melodyne?

It wasn't polyphonic last time I used it! From memory, I think you can edit vibrato (modulation) but not amplitude or timing.

Also, can anyone tell me how the Waves Update Plan works?

Maybe Waves can?

[Bossman]

thanks Red Bladder, thanks Sam

[Daniel Davis]

The waves tune is a very different beast to Melodyne.

Waves is rather like the Logic version (perhaps a little better) and autotune in that it latches on to a note and then clamps it to the 'correct' pitch after a set amount of time. Setting a longer amount of time allows note transitions, but it will still remove vibrato. And its damn difficult to set it up if there are supposed to be slides onto the notes - unless you want to mult the voice out to different tracks with seperate setting just for the tuning. That is rather different to melodyne which moves the whole note including inflections so that it is averagely in tune - you can also reduce the in-note drift if and only if you choose.

I have Logic, Waves, and Melodyne (used to have Autotune). I find that if I want a quick and dirty solution I'll use the Logic plug-in and if I want to do a good job I'll spend the time using Melodyne.

But then I'm not trying to make my clients sound like Stephen Hawking. If that is your kind of thing, then you might want to think about Autotune.

[Bossman]

Waves is rather like the Logic version (perhaps a little better) and autotune in that it latches on to a note and then clamps it to the 'correct' pitch after a set amount of time. Setting a longer amount of time allows note transitions, but it will still remove vibrato. And its damn difficult to set it up if there are supposed to be slides onto the notes - unless you want to mult the voice out to different tracks with seperate setting just for the tuning. That is rather different to melodyne which moves the whole note including inflections so that it is averagely in tune - you can also reduce the in-note drift if and only if you choose.

thanks, it sound like Melodyne is better for what I want.

But then I'm not trying to make my clients sound like Stephen Hawking. If that is your kind of thing, then you might want to think about Autotune.

No, definitely not. I mean, I have, on occasion, been asked to do the whole robot voice thing, but generally I cringe at the idea, and normally I'm just trying to tune the odd note without any obvious side effects and Melodyne does it well for me.

thanks