Sibelius design faults

[Gone To Lunch]

Harsh, but I must admit I am finding it very difficult for these reasons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKx1wnXClcI

[muzines]

Omg!

Still laughing!

It reminds me of all those horrible wilderness years in the 90s on Windows, and some of the worst software designs ever - Word, Frontpage, Filemaker Pro and Quark Xpress being the worst offenders for me...

On the plus side, Dorico really did give them a chance to start from scratch with something modern, and avoid the mess that Sibelius became...

[Glenn D]

Harsh, but I must admit I am finding it very difficult for these reasons

Me too. What were they thinking?
Which is why I am still keeping an old G4 laptop with Sibelius 3 on it! Quite good enough to provide intricate orchestral and vocal scores for professional performance.
And easy to use!

[wireman]

I watched that a few days ago, trouble is I would have to invest a lot of time to be sure an alternative was actually better. The same guy has a video on Hallelujah covers.

[Gone To Lunch]

I watched that a few days ago, trouble is I would have to invest a lot of time to be sure an alternative was actually better. The same guy has a video on Hallelujah covers.

I went to a Dorico demo earlier this year, and it had addressed alot of the criticisms in the video. Dorico also includes a cut-down Cubase sequencer, which is dandy for Cubase users. But not much help to me in Digital Performer. Shame.

[Drew Stephenson]

I enjoyed that!

[Guest]

Really good video. He is wrong about Finale, it is exceptional software but Sibelius users can become a bit cult like.

[ConcertinaChap]

I don't use Sibelius much at all but my wife spends hours most days with it. Let's just say if there is a Sibelius cult, my wife isn't part of it.

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PS if you must use Sibelius do yourself a favour and get NotePerformer (also available for Dorico).

[wireman]

PS if you must use Sibelius do yourself a favour and get NotePerformer (also available for Dorico).

How good is it? Can it spot romantic/baroque pieces and alter performance appropriately (keyboard)?

[Exalted Wombat]

If there's a cult in the scoring software world, it's around Dorico (and anti-Sibelius).

The unquestioned bad treatment of the Sibelius development team by Avid, and the team's subsequent pick up by Steinberg, to develop Dorico, has lead to a cult where Dorico can do no wrong and Sibelius no right.

As in certain current political questions, facts are secondary to convictions

[Exalted Wombat]

PS if you must use Sibelius do yourself a favour and get NotePerformer (also available for Dorico).

How good is it? Can it spot romantic/baroque pieces and alter performance appropriately (keyboard)?

The downside of NP is that it alters performance of ALL scores in a quest for 'expression', and it's a non-switchable feature.

This can enhance a lyrical style, sabotage a rhythmic one.

[Guest]

Let's just say if there is a Sibelius cult, my wife isn't part of it.

When a Sibelius user looks at me using Finale I get "in Sibelius you just do this, it's so easy". Or you send a score as Music XML and you get the complaint that it doesn't open properly - no it doesn't, because Sibelius is not fully compliant.

Then there are all the celebrity endorsements along the lines of "when you are at top of your profession like me you need to use Sibelius, it's like the only professional option".

[ConcertinaChap]

My wife uses it because it was the standard at uni when she was doing her degree. At least she got it at academic pricing, a substantial reduction (she's still on 7.5 and staying there).

The downside of NP is that it alters performance of ALL scores in a quest for 'expression', and it's a non-switchable feature.

This can enhance a lyrical style, sabotage a rhythmic one.

I'm not the user and can only go by what my wife has shown me, but she says that unless you use the articulations and put in plenty of expression then NP can sound much too rhythmic and staccato. In other words the opposite of what I think you're describing.

To get the best of NP then you have to work with it, but if you do then the result is greatly superior to Sibelius Sounds. It's not going to replace sound libraries and you're not going to make marketable audio with it, but decent mock-ups seem to be within its capabilities in her experience. It seems to us a bargain at the price and out of the box also works with Dorico and Finale.

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[Guest]

You should know what the score sounds like in your head and use the playback as a guide and way of checking the score. Hindemith would make his students play their harmony exercises on the harmonium so they could not use expression.
Sampled instruments interact as samples, not real instruments, therefore it is unreliable to use samples to check the orchestration.