does anyone know of a vst metronome that has swing ?feature
it would be really helpfull
or a way of adding swing to the reaper metronome ?
metronome vst with swing
Re: metronome vst with swing
hello elf
i want to keep it simple and be able to do it without
faffing around
i know reaper has the swing option on the grid
wich works great post playing
i just wanted something i could use quickly at the start of a session
that would give me more than just a straight clik
i want to keep it simple and be able to do it without
faffing around
i know reaper has the swing option on the grid
wich works great post playing
i just wanted something i could use quickly at the start of a session
that would give me more than just a straight clik
Re: metronome vst with swing
A metronome implemented as a VST plugin is going to follow the tempo setting of the host DAW. As swing involves a variable offset against a background clock I would be mildy surprised if a VST implements that because it probably wouldn't align that well to the swing-related quantize settings in the MIDI editor or the swing feature on Reaper's grid.
As swing can be applied in varying amounts and is not a known constant, I think The Elf's solution is the most sensible because you can create such a guide track using the swing features in the DAW itself. This will remain synchronised with subsequent edits (such as swing-related quantisation) whereas stuff played to 'external' implementation of swing in a VST probably won't sound as good.
I'm sure it's possible to have a go at it, but if I was developing a metronome VST it's probably a feature I would avoid myself.
As swing can be applied in varying amounts and is not a known constant, I think The Elf's solution is the most sensible because you can create such a guide track using the swing features in the DAW itself. This will remain synchronised with subsequent edits (such as swing-related quantisation) whereas stuff played to 'external' implementation of swing in a VST probably won't sound as good.
I'm sure it's possible to have a go at it, but if I was developing a metronome VST it's probably a feature I would avoid myself.
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Re: metronome vst with swing
That was a good explanation!
Re: metronome vst with swing
Or if you've got a drum VSTi use that with a simple rhythm and a bit of swing added in the VSTi?
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Re: metronome vst with swing
paleface wrote:does anyone know of a vst metronome that has swing ?feature
it would be really helpfull
or a way of adding swing to the reaper metronome ?
The problem is that swing feel needs to be inside of (between) the beats. Not on the beats.
Better to record a percussion groove that has the swing feel you want, like a clave, or shuffle beat, and that let the regular metronome play on top of that.
What I do is I always make my own click track track groove for the tune. Generate an even beat groove, then add a swung percussion on top of it. Use that as the click.
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Re: metronome vst with swing
Unless I've missed something it seems to me as if this is being over-complicated. As per the previous poster, just record a swing metronome and use that. That way you could also have a variety of different swing feels to use.
If your DAW supports it, you can use a swung grid if you want recording to snap to it later.
When I was doing a lot of rhythm programming (a few decades ago) I'd do this all the time, so the click would match the feel of the song, or to suit the requirements of the musician(s) I was recording. I rarely used a built-in metronome click in a session.
If your DAW supports it, you can use a swung grid if you want recording to snap to it later.
When I was doing a lot of rhythm programming (a few decades ago) I'd do this all the time, so the click would match the feel of the song, or to suit the requirements of the musician(s) I was recording. I rarely used a built-in metronome click in a session.
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