UAD/ ESI/EVENTIDE

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UAD/ ESI/EVENTIDE

Post by joaboa »

Heya!
I got an EVentide h9000, ESI U168XT & UAD apollo 16 x.(& UAD apollo twin quad mkii)

Is the best way to set it up ...instruments into ESI, then into EVentide and then into UAD apollo 16x/twin?
I have a lot of instruments i want to connect, so whats the easiest way here?
I also have a Livetrak-12 , and a tascam m24, if its easier to use those as connecter?
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Re: UAD/ ESI/EVENTIDE

Post by MOF »

You might struggle to get a combination of usb and Thunderbolt to work together. You could run the latter in stand alone mode into the usb device on two channels.
Are these live instruments or synths that could be recorded in your DAW several at a time later after some re-patching? The reverb could then be used for mix down
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Re: UAD/ ESI/EVENTIDE

Post by jaminem »

Don't want to judge you but....

are these things you have, or things you are thinking about buying? or maybe trying to make the UAD stuff work with your ESI stuff?

in all cases i'd stop a minute, cos this needs more thought

As MOF said, its gonna be tricky to get the ESI to work well with the UAD, and i'd question why you'd want to?
Thats a £2,700 investment in UAD that removes the need to for the ESI, so if you're thinking about this to expand the ESI then I wouldn't bother trying to make them work together.
The ESI has no ADAT ports so you cant expand it (which be the traditional route) so sell it!

That would leave you with 2 mic inputs that can use unison (the big draw for UAD outside of the quality) a HiZ input for guitar, expansion via ADAT in AES I/O and 16 analogue line inputs from the x16

Now if by instruments you mean keyboards that's more then enough when coupled with a patchbay, if you mean recording guitars either via the direct in or via mics, then the x16 is not what you want, unless you have a load of external preamps or a mixer. i'd be looking at the x8 or x8p for this.

Feels like you don't understand the tech enough yet to get to the right answer, so if you haven't made the purchase do some more research. if you have a load of keyboards ditch the ESI and pay someone to help you set it up...

Good luck...
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Re: UAD/ ESI/EVENTIDE

Post by CS70 »

joaboa wrote:Heya!
I got an EVentide h9000, ESI U168XT & UAD apollo 16 x.(& UAD apollo twin quad mkii)

Is the best way to set it up ...instruments into ESI, then into EVentide and then into UAD apollo 16x/twin?
I have a lot of instruments i want to connect, so whats the easiest way here?
I also have a Livetrak-12 , and a tascam m24, if its easier to use those as connecter?
I really appreciate if you take time out.
Have the best of days

Well, what do you want to achieve? Windows or Mac?

Even if both UAD and ESI are USB, you won't likely be able to use them for recording in a meaningful way together. You might be able to use them for playback with some aggregator like Asio4All.

I use both a regular RME and an Apollo Twin - the latter exists to run the UAD plugins. Even if of course it's got excellent Unison preamps and I have the 610 emulation... so if I need a mic on the fly without going thru my hardware 610, I can switch to that one.

The traditional way is a patch bay I believe, where every time you hook up what you need.

But to stay with what you have... if you need lots of inputs, you either need an interface with much I/O and probably ADAT expandability (I have 10 physical I/O on the RME plus a 8 channel converter) or you could indeed press the mic into service - simply connecting its mains out to the line ins of whatever interface you use as a recording device. A mixer being a mixer, you will be able to use the physical faders to select what comes out of the mixer's main outs. The cost is a little more potential noise and distortion (way more stuff in the signal path) and a more cumbersome setup than using only the software mixer.
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Re: UAD/ ESI/EVENTIDE

Post by Arpangel »

I think you have to give us more information, that’s the best part of ten grands worth of gear there in three items, surely you didn’t buy this without first working out out how you were going to use it?
You have two interfaces that are at opposite ends of the price spectrum? a mixer like the Tascam is a good idea, to accommodate your instruments, and act as a send/return for the Eventide if you went analogue, that way you’d only have to use the Apollo.
I'm scratching around here, need more info.
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